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[rpd] Eligibility Criteria for PDWG chairs
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Sat Mar 27 08:12:27 UTC 2021
Hi Emem,
Because this plot is damaging my own proposal, I think it is clear that if I believe there is no plot, I’m acting objectively.
If I believe, every time any of my proposals fails to reach consensus or to follow the ratification process that there is a “plot”, then I will be clearly subjective. That’s why *very few times* I’ve submmitted appeals, because I only do that, when I was really convinced that (not because any plot), the consensus judgement was done improperly.
I think it is a problem of very bad missunderstanding about how the Board is interpreting the bylaws and the PDP. I don’t think is done in bad faith or as part of a plot, however, it is clear that it is broken and it shows a lack of, if I can say, proffesionality, or engagement with the task, or whatever you can describe. It is a set of mistakes, one after the other, with should be addressed.
I’m lost about your comment on uncle Accra, could you please clarify?
On the other side, I work Monday to Sunday, non-stop, so I never consider if I’m sending an email on Friday or Monday or Sunday.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 27/3/21 7:02, "Emem William" <dwizard65 at gmail.com> escribió:
Dear Jordi,
Thank you for your mail. You are an objective person but when it comes to your proposals you get blinded. You said it's not a plot? Do you think these things just happen without some thinking behind it. You get bomb shell on Friday nights and it's always a coincidence. It's a coordinated strategy designed by uncle Accra.
You see funny interpretation and think it's just a mistake?
Okay, let the mistake continue.
I'm still observing.
Bye
Cheers,
Emem William
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 20:26 JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
Hi Emem,
I don’t think there is a plot, however there is a clear strange misinterpretation of the PDP and the bylaws and this happened since long time ago.
In my opinion the recall of the chairs was not a plot, but totally correct. I tried to told them in the list that the way they were interpreting the PDP was wrong.
I believe chairs said the true regarding they request to the board to ratify the policies. One of the confirmed to me in private. I asked to resend the email in the list, but refused to continue speaking to me and sending this email to the list (also was told that Eddy was asked to clarify), for personal reasons.
This is why, personally can’t longer trust the board, and I’m sincerely *very sad* to say this, because it is not just one mistake, but one after the other. I use mistakes to be “soft”, as I think they are just hiding facts, which is more than a mistake.
Unfortunately, this is what we have and it is true that the board is setting policies such as the ToR, which are modifying the PDP against the PDP and the bylaws. So that’s why we need urgently to have chairs in place, even if temporarily, to resolve that and for once, make sure that the board doesn’t anymore do policies unless they are really urgent and then they must be endorsed in the next meeting.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 26/3/21 20:10, "Emem William" <dwizard65 at gmail.com> escribió:
Dear PD Working Group,
Please read Inbetween the lines. I see and have been quietly observing a pattern here.
It looks like the board chair and his friends are planning a grand plot here. Quite intelligently planned.
Chairs Recalled: Board Chair and 3 of his friends needed to execute the plot . To recall PDWG chair. You need Board Chair and 3 friends. Hummm..
Policy passed by the WG but Board chair and his friends didn't like it. They decided to say the chairs never sent the mail cos they know they can't pull a super majority on the board so it better killed. We all remember the advice from Ashok a while ago on the board prerogative policy.
Ashok and board chair?
Co-Chairs informed me and us all here that they did. What going on here ? Even if they did not the documents are available in the public domain.
Appeal Committee was next. Board Chair again. If there is an appeal that you want to influence. Ask one AC member to resign and suddenly no more quorum. Then Board Chair and his friends are replacing them all.
Now Co Chair replacement: Board chair wants to appoint in conjunction with friends and Madhvi.
I remember, I once read something on this mailing list about Madhvi..
But by they way it's now
Ashok, Board Chair and Madhvi(SM)...I see a pattern.
We now know what to do
I rest my case.
Before I go..
I hope AFRINIC would recover one day.
But I must empasis that it's never the prerogative of the board chair to appoint PDWG chair neither is it that of the board. It should never happen if we all are awake.
The board chair and friends are trying hard to circumvent the community in all the process.
I see a pattern..
Bye for now.
Regards,
Emem William
On Fri, Mar 26, 2021, 18:20 Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net> wrote:
Dear PDWG,
I submit to you the below proposed eligibility criteria which are based upon the previous discussions on the rpd mailing list.
We encourage you to follow the following guidelines to facilitate the compilation of your feedback:-
1. Please read and thoroughly review the list of eligibility criteria.
2. Please reply back to this email to keep the same thread of the discussion to ensure that your feedback is read.
3. If there are any criteria that you either support or do not support, please clearly refer to it and provide concise feedback (refer to the numbering in the list below).
4. If there are new criteria that you would like to propose, please clearly mention it concisely and add a new numbering.
Proposed Eligibility Criteria
A. The intended volunteer must be well conversant with AFRINIC’s consensus-driven ecosystem, including its Policy Development Process; A practical understanding of RFC 7282 is required.
B. The intended volunteer must be accessible and make himself or herself available to follow and moderate all policy proposal discussions on AFRINIC’s rpd mailing list as well as attending AFRINIC Public Policy Meetings whenever they are held (Note: All logistical assistance will be provided by AFRINIC);
C. The intended volunteer must have at least 3 years of sufficient past and active participative experience on either AFRINIC’s or any other RIR’s rpd mailing list;
D. The Intended volunteer must have participated in at least two (2) AFRINIC events (face-to-face or virtual) in the past three (3) years;
E. The intended volunteer must have sufficient capability of understanding and interpreting the contents of AFRINIC’s Consolidated Policy Manual;
F. The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate good technical knowledge and understanding of the Internet ecosystem. Having 3 years of related technical experience would be an advantage
G. Not being author of any of the policy proposals currently under discussion.
The following are proposals not in the discussion threads :
H)The intended volunteer must either reside within or originate from AFRINIC’s service region;
I) The intended volunteer must be able to demonstrate excellent presentation and communication skills.
We look forward to receiving your comments and feedback.
……………………………………………………………..
Cher PDWG,
Je vous communique les critères d'éligibilité proposés ci-dessous, qui sont basés sur les discussions précédentes sur la liste de diffusion rpd.
Nous vous encourageons à suivre les directives suivantes afin de faciliter la compilation de vos commentaires :-
1. Veuillez lire et examiner attentivement la liste des critères d'éligibilité.
2. Veuillez répondre à ce courriel afin de conserver le même fil de discussion et de vous assurer que vos commentaires sont lus.
3. S'il y a des critères que vous soutenez ou non, veuillez y faire clairement référence et fournir un retour d'information concis (veuillez vous référer à la numérotation dans la liste ci-dessous).
4. S'il y a de nouveaux critères que vous souhaitez proposer, veuillez le mentionner clairement et de manière concise et ajouter une nouvelle numérotation.
Critères d'éligibilité proposés
A. Le volontaire concerné doit bien connaître l'écosystème consensuel d'AFRINIC, y compris son processus d'élaboration des politiques. Une compréhension pratique du RFC 7282 est requise.
B. Le volontaire concerné doit être accessible et se rendre disponible pour suivre et modérer toutes les discussions sur les propositions de politique sur la liste de diffusion rpd d'AFRINIC, ainsi que pour assister aux réunions de politique publique d'AFRINIC lorsqu'elles ont lieu (Note : Toute l'assistance logistique sera fournie par AFRINIC) ;
C. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir au moins 3 ans d'expérience suffisante et active de participation à la liste de diffusion rpd de l'AFRINIC ou de tout autre RIR ;
D. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir participé à au moins deux (2) événements AFRINIC (face à face ou virtuels) au cours des trois (3) dernières années ;
E. Le volontaire concerné doit avoir une capacité suffisante de compréhension et d'interprétation du contenu du Consolidated Policy Manual d'AFRINIC ;
F. Le volontaire concerné doit être capable de démontrer une bonne connaissance technique et une bonne compréhension de l'écosystème Internet. Une expérience technique de 3 ans dans ce domaine serait un avantage.
G. Ne doit pas être l'auteur de l'une des propositions de politique actuellement en discussion.
Les propositions suivantes ne figurent pas dans les fils de discussion :
H. Le volontaire concerné doit soit résider ou soit en être originaire de la région de service d'AFRINIC, ;
I. Le volontaire doit être capable de démontrer d'excellentes capacités de présentation et de communication.
Nous nous attendons à recevoir vos commentaires et feedbacks.
Regards
Madhvi
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Madhvi Gokool
Senior IP Resources Specialist
AFRINIC Ltd.
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