[rpd] Secretariat PDWG

[Sami Ait Ali Oulahcen]

Hi Mike,

On 2/26/21 11:44 AM, Mike Silber wrote:

> Hi Mirriam

> It is getting loud in the echo chamber …. Thank you for trying to make your voice heard!

> Those who complain that consensus is impossible are now claiming that we have reached consensus on an election.

> Personally I don’t think there is much value to this debate any further. There are some who will refuse to allow this WG to move to consensus (as is their right). 


With the right co-chairs this should not be possible. We need co-chairs that are immune to the echo noise... and a good AC to uphold their judgment.

I just wonder if that is because they believe they have

> enough sock puppets on the mailing list to win an election?


That must be it. Co-Chair election via voting has proven to be not ideal. The electorate should have a stake in the game. Letting random passersby whether in a room or on a mailing list is borderline irresponsible. The AfriNIC community has grown much larger than it used to be and anonymous voting has now reached its limit.

Regards,
Sami


> We just need to make sure that we have quality candidates and a fair election without “ballot stuffing” by sock-puppets.

> Regards

> Mike

>> On 26 Feb 2021, at 12:34, Mirriam via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>> 

>> Hi Gaby

>> 

>> I have been reading about the notion that consensus is hard and you are now claiming that its tricky etc...

>> 

>> I believe this claims are baseless and with no merit.

>> 

>> Mirriam.

>> 

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>>    On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 12:55 PM, Gaby Giner

>>    <gabyginernetwork at gmail.com <mailto:gabyginernetwork at gmail.com>>

>>    wrote:

>>    Hi everyone,

>> 

>>    It's quite obvious that option 1 is the clear choice to go with as

>>    opposed to option 2. An online election provides much more clarity

>>    and expedites the process as opposed to the mess of voting by

>>    consensus. It's also been proven by the past that consensus is

>>    such a tricky thing to achieve, and could cost us time and effort.

>> 

>>    Option 1 is the no-brainer choice.

>> 

>>    Thanks,

>>    Gaby

>> 

>>    On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 3:32 PM Mirriam via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net

>>    <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

>> 

>>        Hi Anthony,

>> 

>>        Even WG consensus has been tried and tested as a great

>>        procedure in the past and you can ask Dewole, Sami, Seun etc.....

>> 

>>        As a WG, let us not shy away from the fact that in recent past

>>        two well meaning but inexperienced co-chairs who kept getting

>>        things very wrong  got selected by voting. Don't get me wrong,

>>        voting by ranked choice may be good second option.

>> 

>>        The fall back to the board also sounds as a reasonable

>>        selection process with involvement of WG if board can float

>>        candidates.

>> 

>>        Mirriam

>> 

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>>            On Fri, Feb 26, 2021 at 1:46 AM, Anthony Ubah

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