[rpd] way forward on the PDWG after the Recall of the co-chairs

[JORDI PALET MARTINEZ]

Dear Arnaud,

 

In my email on 11th (https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html), I asked for other people to volunteer for doing this. I can’t find any email of anyone offering, so it is not anyone appointing anyone, it is a volunteer steeping in and nobody objecting. Maybe I’ve missed your email volunteering?

 

Otherwise, this is what we call rough consensus, and if you read the document, you will find that I’m not making personal observations or trying to influence anyone, even I provided the text to the list in case somebody feels that I’ve wrongly reflected their views.

 

Remember that if we don’t react to the email from the Board Chair on 10th, the consequences could be a total failure of this community, because the Board, in this situation could just decide to “do nothing” and wait one year for a new in-person meeting.

 

I tried to be as much neutral as possible, and that’s why I stopped having personal view on the list about this topic. I really sorry if you feel that I’ve failed on that.

 

I know the Board and staff is following the discussion, but please, read the message from the board:

https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012286.html

 

They really asked to the PDWG to find a way forward, not just to discuss about it and let the Board to “observe” the discussion.

 

I’m really sorry that you feel I did it wrong. I will try much better next time, as I always do.

 

Regarding the RIPE list, you should provide all the context, not just start a fire without explaining the context. If anyone is interested in that discussion (about the inconsistencies in some parts of our PDP, including that some co-chairs participate in the appeals even if they have been part of the discussion, and how co-chairs remain there forever and not encouraging new people to participate), should go to the archive:

https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2021-February/date.html, where you can find also that others share my view. Of course, always there is people against.

 

Regards,

Jordi

@jordipalet

 

 

 

El 17/2/21 9:15, "Arnaud AMELINA" <amelnaud at gmail.com> escribió:

 

Dear Jordi,

 

Who appointed  you in this role? don’t you think board, staff are following discussions and can make their own minds and judgment on the discussions and  the  outcomes? Or is your intention to influence or bias discussion. 

 

As an interested partly in this discussion, please encourage neutral observation and give chance to easy and quick resolutions on the issues discussed. 

 

You seem to have not learnt  from the advise given to you recently on RIPE list.

 

--

Arnaud 

 

Le mar. 16 févr. 2021 à 23:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net> a écrit :

Dear Board, all,

Following the February 10th email from the Board Chair, the PDWG has discussed the possible options on the way forward after the Recall of the PDWG co-chairs.

The attached document, already circulated today in the RPD, is a summary and conclusions of the discussions reached by the consensus of the PDWG.

The PDWG hasn't requested any change to the document in the last few hours, however it has been updated just to correct a couple of typos (track of changes show them).

As a consequence, the decision is:

"Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize on-line elections in a few weeks (with the previous electoral census)."

We should remark, as it has been suggested already by some participants in the discussion, that the ideal situation would be, once candidates are introduced to the PDWG, we have a constructive discussion in the list (and hopefully among the candidates) and some of the candidates withdraw, so an actual election process is no longer needed, as it already happened in the previous elections. Of course, this can't be guaranteed, so the elections process must be ready for that contingence.

We will await your decision about the timing and the call for candidates.

Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet





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