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--></style></head><body lang=ES link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dear Arnaud,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>In my email on 11<sup>th</sup> (<a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012299.html</a>), I asked for other people to volunteer for doing this. I can’t find any email of anyone offering, so it is not anyone appointing anyone, it is a volunteer steeping in and nobody objecting. Maybe I’ve missed your email volunteering?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Otherwise, this is what we call rough consensus, and if you read the document, you will find that I’m not making personal observations or trying to influence anyone, even I provided the text to the list in case somebody feels that I’ve wrongly reflected their views.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Remember that if we don’t react to the email from the Board Chair on 10<sup>th</sup>, the consequences could be a total failure of this community, because the Board, in this situation could just decide to “do nothing” and wait one year for a new in-person meeting.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I tried to be as much neutral as possible, and that’s why I stopped having personal view on the list about this topic. I really sorry if you feel that I’ve failed on that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I know the Board and staff is following the discussion, but please, read the message from the board:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012286.html">https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2021/012286.html</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>They really asked to the PDWG to find a way forward, not just to discuss about it and let the Board to “observe” the discussion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>I’m really sorry that you feel I did it wrong. I will try much better next time, as I always do.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regarding the RIPE list, you should provide all the context, not just start a fire without explaining the context. If anyone is interested in that discussion (about the inconsistencies in some parts of our PDP, including that some co-chairs participate in the appeals even if they have been part of the discussion, and how co-chairs remain there forever and not encouraging new people to participate), should go to the archive:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><a href="https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2021-February/date.html">https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ripe-list/2021-February/date.html</a>, where you can find also that others share my view. Of course, always there is people against.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jordi<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>@jordipalet<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>El 17/2/21 9:15, "Arnaud AMELINA" <<a href="mailto:amelnaud@gmail.com">amelnaud@gmail.com</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear Jordi,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Who appointed you in this role? don’t you think board, staff are following discussions and can make their own minds and judgment on the discussions and the outcomes? Or is your intention to influence or bias discussion. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>As an interested partly in this discussion, please encourage neutral observation and give chance to easy and quick resolutions on the issues discussed. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>You seem to have not learnt from the advise given to you recently on RIPE list.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>--<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Arnaud <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Le mar. 16 févr. 2021 à 23:08, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <<a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'>Dear Board, all,<br><br>Following the February 10th email from the Board Chair, the PDWG has discussed the possible options on the way forward after the Recall of the PDWG co-chairs.<br><br>The attached document, already circulated today in the RPD, is a summary and conclusions of the discussions reached by the consensus of the PDWG.<br><br>The PDWG hasn't requested any change to the document in the last few hours, however it has been updated just to correct a couple of typos (track of changes show them).<br><br>As a consequence, the decision is:<br><br>"Halt everything regarding PDP decisions, until the board can organize on-line elections in a few weeks (with the previous electoral census)."<br><br>We should remark, as it has been suggested already by some participants in the discussion, that the ideal situation would be, once candidates are introduced to the PDWG, we have a constructive discussion in the list (and hopefully among the candidates) and some of the candidates withdraw, so an actual election process is no longer needed, as it already happened in the previous elections. 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