[rpd] Report from Recall Committee

[Fernando Frediani]

Hello Gregoire

Well, the PDP makes it clear that is up to the WG to select the 
Co-Chairs, no one else (point 3.3). It doesn't have a fallback mechanism 
or even a point which allows the WG defer that decision to the Board.
This is different from when something is not mentioned at all and is 
considered not covered by current rules.

So anything different from what is in the PDP right now is a change in 
the PDP and a change in the PDP can only be done via the due process 
with rough consensus when we have new Co-Chairs in place. Even if the WG 
would decide unanimously right now to defer that decision it is 
something that cannot be done at the present because the current PDP as 
written forbids it having it clear the only way Co-Chairs can be chosen.

I keep hoping the Board will organize the elections soon and we will be 
able to progress in this matter with the natural way which is the WG 
choosing.
Hope also in the next change we have to adjust the PDP we can include 
the possibility for the Board to be able to select temporary/interim 
Co-Chairs during unforeseen situation and it is in other RIRs.

Regards
Fernando

On 16/02/2021 21:50, Gregoire EHOUMI wrote:

>

>> On Feb 15, 2021, at 11:52 AM, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com 

>> <mailto:fhfrediani at gmail.com>> wrote:

>>

>> Folks

>>

>> There is *no provision* in the current CPM *for the Board to choose 

>> the Co-Chairs* even in such exceptional situation like this. In my 

>> view this is unfortunately the PDP hasn't been adjusted yet for this 

>> possibility but the reality is that it does not exist anywhere in the 

>> CPM.

>>

>

>  Let me repeat what other have said:

>

> The PDP does not prescribe any selection mechanism and all we have 

> done in the past was by the WG decision and acceptance.

>

> So the WG may also decide to defer to Board to address the special 

> situation we are in.

>

>> Let's stick to what we have. If we managed to get experienced people 

>> to act as temporary-transition Co-Chairs we may be able to improve 

>> this part of PDP as well.

>>

>

> If the WG could agree on the option which you seem to support above, 

> we won’t need to defer to any other entity.

>

> But If we continue to waste time and show our inability to 

> self-organize, there are provisions which allows Board to fix the lack 

> of consensus.

>

> —

> Gregoire

>

>> Regards

>> Fernando

>>

>> On 15/02/2021 13:45, Sunday Folayan wrote:

>>> On 2/15/21 4:07 PM, Gregoire EHOUMI via RPD wrote:

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> On Feb 12, 2021, at 6:17 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com 

>>>>> <mailto:owen at delong.com>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> How about instead, we follow the rules as you request and have the 

>>>>> PDWG select interim co-chairs until the next election?

>>>>>

>>>>> Owen

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>> The PDWG makes decision by consensus and should select interim 

>>>> co-chair(s) easily if behaving as a functional WG

>>>>

>>>> The WG has been spending valuable time and energy in arguing and 

>>>> should have spent the time to select co-chairs via a call of 

>>>> experienced volunteers capable of immediately acting and select the 

>>>> best among them.

>>>> We give it a trial and fall back to board?

>>>

>>>

>>> I agree with this. A call for volunteers is a good start point. When 

>>> there is a slate of n<3, selection is easier.

>>>

>>> Asking the Board to manage the selection process, is unnecessary 

>>> anticipation of what may not exist, at this time.

>>>

>>> Sunday.

>>>

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