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<p>Hello Gregoire</p>
<p>Well, the PDP makes it clear that is up to the WG to select the
Co-Chairs, no one else (point 3.3). It doesn't have a fallback
mechanism or even a point which allows the WG defer that decision
to the Board.<br>
This is different from when something is not mentioned at all and
is considered not covered by current rules.<br>
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<p>So anything different from what is in the PDP right now is a
change in the PDP and a change in the PDP can only be done via the
due process with rough consensus when we have new Co-Chairs in
place. Even if the WG would decide unanimously right now to defer
that decision it is something that cannot be done at the present
because the current PDP as written forbids it having it clear the
only way Co-Chairs can be chosen. <br>
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<p>I keep hoping the Board will organize the elections soon and we
will be able to progress in this matter with the natural way which
is the WG choosing.<br>
Hope also in the next change we have to adjust the PDP we can
include the possibility for the Board to be able to select
temporary/interim Co-Chairs during unforeseen situation and it is
in other RIRs.<br>
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<p>Regards<br>
Fernando<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 16/02/2021 21:50, Gregoire EHOUMI
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<p class="">There is <b class="">no provision</b> in the
current CPM <b class="">for the Board to choose the
Co-Chairs</b> even in such exceptional situation like
this. In my view this is unfortunately the PDP hasn't
been adjusted yet for this possibility but the reality
is that it does not exist anywhere in the CPM.</p>
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<div> Let me repeat what other have said:</div>
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<div>The PDP does not prescribe any selection mechanism and all
we have done in the past was by the WG decision and
acceptance.</div>
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<div>So the WG may also decide to defer to Board to address the
special situation we are in.</div>
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<p class="">Let's stick to what we have. If we managed to
get experienced people to act as temporary-transition
Co-Chairs we may be able to improve this part of PDP as
well.</p>
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<div>If the WG could agree on the option which you seem to
support above, we won’t need to defer to any other entity.</div>
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<div>But If we continue to waste time and show our inability
to self-organize, there are provisions which allows Board to
fix the lack of consensus.</div>
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<div class="">How about instead, we follow the
rules as you request and have the PDWG select
interim co-chairs until the next election?<br
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<div class="">The PDWG makes decision by consensus
and should select interim co-chair(s) easily if
behaving as a functional WG</div>
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<div class="">The WG has been spending valuable
time and energy in arguing and should have spent
the time to select co-chairs via a call of
experienced volunteers capable of immediately
acting and select the best among them.</div>
<div class="">We give it a trial and fall back to
board?</div>
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<p class="">I agree with this. A call for volunteers is
a good start point. When there is a slate of n<3,
selection is easier.</p>
<p class="">Asking the Board to manage the selection
process, is unnecessary anticipation of what may not
exist, at this time.</p>
Sunday.<br class="">
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