[rpd] PDWG Chair allowed to abandon a DPP: Follow-Up for ID & Publication (was: Rough Consensus Determination of Conflicting DPPs")

[Sylvain Baya]

Dear PDWG,

Hope you are doing well!

Please see my comments below...

Le ven. 11 déc. 2020 08:23, Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net> a écrit :

>

> Dear Sylvain

>


Hi Madhvi,

Thanks for your kick response :-)


>

> After  you raised the issue of the unpublished proposal, the co-chairs

confirmed that they had not received the proposal on pdwg at afrinic.net in
Dec 2019

>


...maybe we need to have, at least,  a second
reading of our PDP [1]; because i'm not sure to recognise
a procedure built in accord with actual version
of PDP.

Please can you publish the internal procedure,
you Staff
are following? so that PDWG active
contributors
can confirm if it's in accord with the actual version
of PDP [1]...


>

> and the author was contacted on 21 October 2020, requesting his feedback

as to whether he is still interested in submitting the proposal.

>


??? ten (10) months !!!
...a follow-up problem? or just the normal timing?

...i recall that, i'm not the lone [3] to ask this timing's
question :-/


>

> No updates have been received to date. A follow-up email has been sent to

the author.

>


Thanks for your feedback.

Please note that, at least, one of our core principles
is broken here...

...one month and the half to inform us?

~°~
3.2.2 Transparency

All aspects of the Policy Development Process are documented and publicly
available via the AFRINIC website. The discussions are publicly archived.
All procedures that are developed to implement the policy are documented by
AFRINIC and are publicly available.
~°~
<https://www.afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP-Principles>


>

> While the proposal was received on rpd list and you understandably make

the call to have the proposal published on the website and given an ID, The
document mentions "Section 3.4.2 is amended as follows (Green is existing
text, Red strikethrough is deleted existing text, Blue underline is new
text):"

>


You are right!


>

> The Liaison therefore faces a challenge . These texts in colour cannot be

identified in the email from the rpd list archives.

>


Yes!...this problem should be solved by other mean;
because mailman's used version of archive's
sofware can not show coloured texts.


>

> The author's collaboration is therefore required to have the proposal in

the format for publication.

>


...i get your point, but please look here [2] to publish it right now.

You should only follow the PDP; CPM section 3.4.0 and section 3.4.1

~°~
3.4  Policy Development Process

Anyone can submit a proposal. Policy proposals are submitted to the
Resource Policy Discussion mailing list (rpd at afrinic.net) by the author.
AFRINIC will provide administrative support and assist the author(s) in
drafting the proposal *if requested*. AFRINIC shall also provide relevant
facts and statistics *if requested* during the discussion.
~°~

~°~
3.4.1 Draft Policy Proposal

During the development of policy, *draft versions of the document are made
available for review and comment by publishing them on the AFRINIC website
and posting them to* the rpd at afrinic.net mailing list. *Each draft policy
is assigned a unique identifier by AFRINIC* and *the AFRINIC website shall
also contain the version history* and the status *of all proposals*.

[...]
~°~


>

> We will update the PDWG once we have the confirmation from the author and

a proposal in a form that it can be published on the website.

>


...no need!
Again, please just follow the PDP, by immediately publishing
that (proposed) DPP. It'll help us enough!
__
[1]: <https://www.afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP>
[2]: <https://www.afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP-Process>
[3]: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/012105.html>

...again,  many thanks for your feedback.

Shalom,
--sb.


>

> Regards

>

> Madhvi

>

> On 10/12/2020 11:33 PM, Sylvain Baya wrote:

>>

>>

>> ...the actual version of our PDP [1] can not solve

>> this problem. Maybe there is a try here [2] ; but i

>> don't understand why that DPP [2] is still without an

>> identifier attributed by AFRINIC (Staff) and have not

>>  yet been published [3] on AFRINIC's website.

>> __

>> [1]: <https://www.afrinic.net/policy/manual#PDP>

>> [2]: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2019/010248.html>

>> [3]: <https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/rpd/2020/011886.html>

>

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