[rpd] Community Feedback

[Murungi Daniel]

Dear all,

Kindly stop with the crappy “voluntary” argument. 

The task of Co-chair is a position of service to the community and voluntary or not, should be held in high esteem. 

And yes, there is a lot to gain from serving as Co-chair.


Regards,
Daniel




> On Dec 2, 2020, at 10:11 PM, Wijdane Goubi <goubi.wijdane at gmail.com> wrote:

> 

> Dear community,

> 

> I would like to start by saying that wanting to hurry up and end this mess in order to move on and take over discussion other proposals has absolutely nothing to do with fast-tracking the ongoing recall process and there is neither reason nor benefit for the co-chairs to fast-track anything at all. At the same time, invoking the section 3.6 of the CPM was demanded and suggested by the community, thus, it is not fair to blame the co-chairs for addressing it  and accusing them of rushing or “fast-tracking” the process. Their job is VOLUNTARY and some members make it seems like they are gaining something out of it.

> The co-chairs acknowledge that some of the claims may be valid, and are calmly and clearly outlining the true concerns and reasons why some of the community members oppose by asking for related subjects and arguments and hoping for the community to give them a clear direction as to which way to go and yet there is nothing but personal attacking and pointless emotions.

> Regarding the so-called “AFRICAN DICTATOR”, besides the fact of it being very disrespectful, it is so irrelevant, as the meaning of a “dictator” is someone who behaves in an autocratic way and a person who exercises absolute power with unrestricted control, typically one who has obtained control by force. Certainly, it does not seems to be the case with the co-chairs, as all they do, is literally dedicating themselves to their job by performing their administrative functions and working hard to solve the community’s concerns.

> 

> Regards, 

> Wijdane.

> 

> Le mer. 2 déc. 2020 à 15:49, Mirriam via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> a écrit :

> Hi Ekatarina 

> 

> I read your email and I noted another baseless claim that people have personal agendas.

> 

> Please spell those agendas as you claim.

> 

> I am waiting.

> 

> Mirriam

> 

> 

> On Wednesday, December 2, 2020, 5:05:15 PM GMT+3, Ekaterina Kalugina <kay.k.prof at gmail.com <mailto:kay.k.prof at gmail.com>> wrote:

> 

> 

> Dear community,

> 

> First of all, I would like to note that it is not fair to attack the co-chairs on the decision to invoke the article 3.6 of the CPM. This idea is not their initiative, rather it was proposed by a community member and all the co-chairs are doing its listening to the concerns of the community, as their duties require.

> 

> Secondly, the co-chairs are not making any unilateral decisions and instead are asking for community feedback on the matter, again, as their duties require. But instead of giving the necessary feedback, some of the members seem to focus on personally attacking the chairs instead. Also, I really doubt that "African dictators" would ask for the feedback of the community. Please let us stay rational here.

> 

> Thirdly, I fail to see how the proposed policy would benefit the co-chairs. All it does is add a few mechanisms that ensure objectivity and transparency of the recall process. This policy would ensure that the chairs are recalled for a good reason and not because their decisions got in the way of some personal agendas.

> 

> So let us focus on keeping the process as fair and objective as possible. 

> 

> Best wishes, 

> Ekaterina 

> 

> 

> On Wed, 2 Dec 2020, 14:39 Daniel Yakmut via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:

> Good Day to All,

> 

> There are a few sensible responses to settling the dust arising from the recall attempts of the current Co-Chairs and the new proposal to make changes to the CPM on recall procedure. Thank you Egbon Sunday, yours is calming.

> 

> However I will want to say thus:

> 

> 1. There wouldn't have been all these back and forth if not that some members of the community feel that their opinions must always be accepted. This is clearly demonstrated by the Authors of the recall document, coming with trumped up charges to secure a Recall. 

> 

> 2. The appeal for the Author of the Policy on Changes on the provisions of recall to withdraw the proposal is a good call. But, again the Co-authors are duty bound to act on the proposal, if it is not withdrawn. Importantly, there is no urgency on the matter. Either way the changes being advocated cannot possibly be use in the current Recall procedure, the existing provisions will apply. Therefore, we should calm nerves knowing that the Co-Chairs will not sit in judgement on matters that affects them as been insinuated by the usual "suspects".

> 

> 3. For me I strongly believe that within us we can resolve all matters, there are still a few good men/women that see things clearly and objectively. If we must add an outsider, we can have one in the Recall committee.

> 

> 4. While we await the actions of the Board on the constitution of the Recall committee and the final action of the committee. I will suggest that members should give the Co-Chairs some breathing space, the bashing and harassment is not helping.

> 

> 

> 

> Simply,

> 

> Daniel

> 

> 

> 

> On 02/12/2020 12:47 pm, Sunday Folayan wrote:

>> Dear Co-Chairs,

>> 

>> I am still hoping the said proposal will be withdrawn by the author, or at the least, wait for us to learn from the implementation of the current recall provisions in the CPM.

>> Please stick with the laid down process. There is no emergency, or a reason for one.

>> 

>> Greetings to the two Co-Chairs. Please relax ... uneasy lies the mouth that eats hot Aloco!

>> 

>> Sunday.

>> 

>> On 12/2/20 5:29 AM, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:

>>> Dear PDWG Members, 

>>> We want to acknowledge the proposal on Co-Chair Recall process and the call for us to invoke section 3.6 of the CPM given the lack of clarity of the current section on the recall process. 

>>> We note that a few have accused of not taking over similar discussions in the past and regarded it as gross misconduct.

>>>  We hope the Community would, in the next few days give us a clear direction as to which way to go. We hope to feed the Community back on our decisions by Saturday 5th December 2020.

>>> We thank you for your understanding, cooperation and the continued trust in us.

>>> Thanks

>>> Co-Chairs

>>> PDWG 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

>>> 

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