[rpd] Reversal of Consensus on Resource Transfer Policy

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

On 18/10/2020 11:49, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:

> Dear Gregoire,

> Please note that we have gone through your appeal and we are not in any

> way afraid of your appeal. 

> Please feel free to even appeal this reversal.  We took this decision

> based on what the community has asked us to do.


Just to clarify:
I believe many community members requested the policy proposal to
not_go_into_last-call and to not_be_considered_consensus-achieved.

That means the intention of these voices is to get the policy back to
mailing-list discussion, and the intention is not to extend the
last-call period.

That is at least my position.

I acknowledge that here are lots of voices on this list who argue the
opposite, for the policy proposal to get approved by chairs (and as such
the WG) and to go to board ratification.
There's an appeal against that.

Also I would like to note that in my understanding some of the voices
wanting the proposal to proceed do advocate to not follow PDWG
processes. Surely without bad intent. And I could be wrong. I know some
already know that I am.

Regards,
Frank


> We are here to listen to

> the genuine need of the community while following the CPM correctly and

> to the best of our ability to avoid anarchy.

>   We have consistently asked you to categorically point out ANY section

> of the CPM we have breached. Up till today and for weeks now you only

> kept on saying *we Co-chairs have breached the CPM without ANY proof *to

> back it up only the fact that we have refused to dance to your personal

> tune. We have a lot of respect for you just like we do for every member

> of the community but please respect yourself so that you can be a good

> example to the generation behind you.  

> You asked us to follow the precedence from previous Chairs, we did by

> following your advice. Only for you to now start singing another song or

> have you forgotten s*o quickly that chairs in the past have had reasons

> to change their decisions?*. Oh is it because we refuse to dance to your

> personal tune that you decided to circulate falsehood about the

> breach of the CPM on the mailing list? 

> Ordinarily, we would have ignored your noise, but sometimes if we don't

> tell the truth. falsehood can be regarded as the truth.  

> *Please point out clearly any Section of the CPM we have breached*.

> thanks

> Co-Chair

> PDWG 

> 

> 

> On Sat, Oct 17, 2020 at 9:32 PM Gregoire EHOUMI

> <gregoire.ehoumi at yahoo.fr <mailto:gregoire.ehoumi at yahoo.fr>> wrote:

> 

>     Dear co-chairs,

> 

>     You create a lot of confusion and you don't follow the PDP. Which

>     section of the PDP allows extension of the last call after you have

>     ended it ?

> 

>     You also seem to ignore that according to appeal ToR section 5.1.e,

>     a failure​ ​to​ ​respond​ ​to​ ​or​ ​conclude​ ​discussions​ ​within

>     ​ ​one​ ​week​ ​of​ ​a​ ​request​ ​from​ ​a complainant​ ​by​ ​the​

>     ​Chair(s)​ ​shall​ ​be​ ​considered​ ​sufficient​ ​grounds​ ​under​

>     ​sections​ ​5.1(c) and​ ​5.1(d).

>     So your decision made on the 7th October was challenged as from 8th

>     October. You did not conclude satisfactorily to the requests from

>     the complainants within the following week. So the appeal filed on

>     the 15th is valid as your decision stands and can’t be reversed.

> 

>     Please stop this continuous violation of the rules on which AFRINIC

>     operates.

> 

>     Failure to obey should be considered as perjury.

> 

>     Regards,

>     --

>     Gregoire

> 

>>     On Oct 17, 2020, at 12:02 PM, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE

>>     <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng <mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>

>>     wrote:

>>

>>     Dear colleagues,

>>

>>     Despite our belief that this policy has covered almost all of the

>>     concerns raised especially the major objections, we would like to

>>     give the community more time to discern after considering the

>>     community's feedback on the consensus declared on the  Resource

>>     Transfer Polic. 

>>

>>     We, the co-chairs, have changed our decision and opt to extend the

>>     last call for one more week for prudence's sake. 

>>

>>     Thank you.

>>

>>     Co-Chair 

>>     PDWG

>>

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