[rpd] Reciprocity of the inter-RIR transfer policies

[Arnaud AMELINA]

French version bellow

Dear Madhvi,

For the sake  of not adding a layer of confusion to what is already going
on, it would have been good to compile the responses from all other RIRs
and submit a comprehensive and comparative table.

It would not be advisable that authors engage as you suggested through
pdwg at afrinic.net  to further discuss this matter. Let us not turn our  PDP
affairs to other RIRs.
We shall not also each be sending a new version of proposal in response to
reciprocity/ compatibility check.
We shall rather rely on staff assessment  as per PDP

Thanks

Cher Madhvi,

Afin de ne pas ajouter une couche de confusion à ce qui se passe déjà, il
aurait été bon de compiler les réponses de tous les autres RIR et de
soumettre un tableau complet et comparatif.

 Il ne serait pas souhaitable que les auteurs s'engagent comme vous l'avez
suggéré via pdwg at afrinic.net pour discuter davantage de cette question.  Ne
tournons pas nos affaires de PDP vers d'autres RIR.

Nous n'enverrons pas non plus chacun une nouvelle version de proposition en
réponse à un contrôle de réciprocité / compatibilité.

Nous nous fierons plutôt à l'évaluation du personnel conformément au PDP.

--
Arnaud

Le ven. 9 oct. 2020 à 15:01, Madhvi Gokool <madhvi at afrinic.net> a écrit :


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> * Dear PDWG AFRINIC has received partial feedback to its query and would

> like to report on the feedback received to the community.  To note that the

> proposal   AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03 was also shared with the RIRs when it

> was submitted in Sep 2020. 1. ARIN has responded that the Resource Transfer

> Policy is not compatible with their inter-RIR transfer policies because of

> the following statement therein - “The source must be the current rights

> holder of the IPv4 address resources registered with any RIR and shall be

> in compliance with the policies of the receiving RIR.” would require a

> source in the ARIN region to comply with AFRINIC RIR policies. AFRINIC -

> You will find  that both AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT02 &

> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03, versions that were shared with the RIRs contain

> this statement. 1. APNIC has responded that for  1.

> AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT03 - Resource Transfer Policy (Draft-3), the APNIC

> inter-RIR policy is not compatible with the current text, especially “The

> source must be the current rights holder of the IPv4 address resources

> registered with any RIR and shall be in compliance with the policies of the

> receiving RIR.” AFRINIC - You will find  that AFPUB-2019-V4-003-DRAFT02

> version that was shared with the RIRs also contain this statement. 1.

>  AFPUB-2019-GEN-002-DRAFT02 - AFRINIC Number Resources Transfer Policy

>  "Only Legacy resources and resources transferred in from other regions

> will be transferable out of the AFRINIC service region." Not compatible as

> it is not fully reciprocal and bi-directional in nature. The proposal only

> allows transfer of legacy resources and resources that been transferred

> into AFRINIC, and NOT resources from the AFRINIC pool. In principle, APNIC

> allows outgoing transfer of resources from the APNIC pool, but has a 5-year

> transfer restriction for 103/8 space. 1. AFPUB-2019-IPv4-002-DRAFT04 - IPv4

> Inter-RIR Resource Transfers (Comprehensive Scope) Draft-4 Compatible for

> IPv4 Inter-RIR transfers. However there is ambiguity about APNIC to AFRINIC

> ASN transfers. We understand the text below allows transfer of ASNs out of

> AFRINIC region if they meet certain conditions. Does it imply transfer of

> incoming ASNs into AFRINIC is allowed? "5.7.4 Transfer of ASN with IPv4

> Resources   At the AFRINIC discretion, in the case where over 50% of the

> IPv4 resources associated with an ASN are being transferred, that ASN may

> also be transferred at the same time." AFRINIC - We shall clarify this with

> APNIC as from next week. To conclude , please note that as we receive

> further updates from the RIRs, we shall keep the working group informed.

> Should the authors of the 3 policy proposals require further inputs and

> clarifications regarding reciprocity/compatibility, we recommend that they

> submit same to pdwg at afrinic.net <pdwg at afrinic.net> . We shall then do the

> needful and liaise with the RIRs. We have also noted that a latest version

> of Resource Transfer Policy was submitted to the list . To maintain the

> consistency , the reciprocity/compatibility with the other inter-RIR

> transfer policies will be sought. Regards Madhvi *

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> On 23/09/2020 9:51 AM, Madhvi Gokool wrote:

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>  Dear PDWG

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> During the Policy discussions in the AFRINIC-32 PPM  on 17 Sep 2020, there

> was a debate regarding the reciprocity of one inter-RIR transfer policy

> proposal with ARIN. The Policy Liaison had responded that since there are 3

> policy proposals under discussion and that two of them had undergone

> revision in 2020 , AFRINIC shall contact ARIN to get their authoritative

> response in regard to the reciprocity of all the *3 proposals*.

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> Since the  LACNIC, RIPE and APNIC RIRs all have inter-RIR transfer

> policies, and we, AFRINIC do not have their assessment of the reciprocity

> of the 3 policy proposals under discussion on record,  AFRINIC has

> therefore reached out to all  4 RIRs to  get their inputs regarding the

> reciprocity of the* three *policy proposals that were discussed in the

> AFRINIC PPM last week.

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> We shall update you once we have received the updates from the  4 RIRs. "

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> Kind Regards

> Madhvi

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