[rpd] End of Last call

[ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE]

Dear Jordi and PDWG,
 Please find attached the final version of the two proposals. The board
prerogatives had no editorial changes however there were editorial changes
on the Transfer policy proposal. The version could not have been published
on the web page until the co-chairs approved it. However, It should have
been included in the initial email, we apologies for this.

@Caleb, Thank you we are happy to consult even beyond previous chairs, and
we are currently doing that. Regarding publishing of draft proposal,  It
was published before the online meeting, or which meeting are you referring
too? We don't understand what you mean, and Please reread the CPM before
coming to conclusions. Do not assume what the CPM says. Read it.!!!
The CPM says
3.4.3 Last Call

A final review of the draft policy is initiated by the Working Group
Chair(s) by sending an announcement to the Resource Policy Discussion
mailing list. The Last Call period shall be at least two weeks. *The
Working Group Chair(s) shall evaluate the feedback received during the
Public Policy Meeting and during this period and decide whether consensus
has been achieved*.

Please point me to the section that says Changes cannot be made during the
last call? All we did was to do a final review and evaluate the discussion.
Let us stop these false accusations. Everything we do is in our best
interest even when we are left with few choices.
There have also been some individuals saying Co-chairs did not follow the
PDP. *Can you please elaborate which aspect of the PDP we didn't follow?*.
Jordi said we did not wait for a response from staff as to if the policy is
reciprocal. Please Jordi should point us to the section of the CPM that
said we should wait for this before taking a decision?. In any event, this
can only be checked with the final approved version, and that was
exactly what we had asked staff to do because this is only logical.
  We asked the authors to make changes based on the comment of the
community. We made sure that the comments of the community were taken fully
into consideration. We didn't bother about the problem statement
because the problem statement does not go into the CPM. We understand that
whichever way we go there would still be some who would not be happy with
the decision. Therefore, we decided to remove the emotional sentiments
asking that we move the policy back into the initial discussion stage, and
we looked at this critically, but we could not find the reason to do this.
We spent about two hours yesterday evaluating every point raised and we
both evaluated the pros and cons extensively on every issue raised and we
narrowed it down before arriving at our decisions.
On the issue of the legacy holders, we all know, and it was also confirmed
to us on the mailing list that legacy holders are not subjected to the CPM
of any of the RIR's. Some misunderstood this initially, and this was
corrected. Can anyone point out any of the other issue(s)that wasn't
addressed? Please let us remove the emotional and personal differences.
*We made sure we followed the CPM to the letter on this issue,* and we
believe that we did our best to bring this issue that has been a pain to
the community laid to rest in a timely manner. As said earlier, whichever
way we go, some would object to it, and we decided to deal with this once
and for all in the best interest of the community with the least possible
pain to the community. You elected us to serve the best interest of the
community while leaving behind emotional issues, and we would continue to
do just as best as we can.

Co-Chair,
PDWG



On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 8:47 AM JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
wrote:


> Hi Moses, all,

>

>

>

> I feel that there is a fundamental mistake here and I beg you to

> reconsider it.

>

>

>

> You've not waited for the staff confirmation about the reciprocity of the

> Inter-RIR transfers. What happens if now the staff comes back and confirms

> that we can’t decide in our policy what do to in other regions, so there is

> no reciprocity and so, we can’t implement this policy?

>

>

>

> Accordingly, I strongly suggest that you change your mind, following

> section 3.5 of the PDP: “A person who disagrees with the actions taken by

> the Chair(s) shall discuss the matter with the PDWG Chair(s) or with the

> PDWG”.

>

>

>

> The reasons for this are:

>

>    1. The only valid proposal version is the one that is published at the

>    web site and then announced to the list. The authors did changes several

>    times, that aren’t there. As we are discussing version 2, we should have a

>    version 2.x to show those.

>    2. The staff must confirm the reciprocity of the last 2.x version in

>    the list. As indicated in 3.4.3, you can extend the last-call to ensure

>    that this is matched.

>    3. This and other aspects, have been indicated several times by myself

>    and others during the last-call. Those are valid-objections that remain

>    unresolved and if you extend the last-call and agree with the latest

>    changes from the authors, then could make sense, otherwise, it is

>    impossible that you can declare the last-call and still “consensus”.

>

>

>

>

>

> Regards,

>

> Jordi

>

> @jordipalet

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>

> El 8/10/20 1:37, "Moses Serugo" <moses.serugo at gmail.com> escribió:

>

>

>

> Hello PDWG members,

>

>

>

> Following the last online PPM held on 16th-17th September 2020. Last call

> was announced on 21st September 2020 for the following policy proposals.

>

> ·         Board Prerogatives on the PDP

>

> ·         Resource Transfer Policy

>

> This is to further announce that the  last call period for the above

> proposals has ended, based on feedback received from the community and the

> editorial changes made by authors to address community concerns, the

> consensus decision from AFRINIC32 is still maintained.

>

> Co-Chairs will now send a report to the Board recommending ratification of

> the two above proposals in line with CPM 3.0.

>

> Regards,

>

> Co-Chairs

>

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