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[rpd] Decisions and summary on policy proposals discussed during the online Policy meeting (AFRINIC 32)

Arnaud AMELINA amelnaud at gmail.com
Tue Sep 22 06:26:17 UTC 2020


+1 @Fernando

Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 15:24, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> a
écrit :


> Hello Abdulkarim

>

> So you are taking in consideration something that one mentioned in a

> single day opportunity over what has been discussed for months in the list

> for for a much larger number of people who contributed to it ? You are

> considering what has been discussed in the PPM as final and as something

> that has to be adjusted in the proposal because of that single day

> discussion ?

>

> I am not saying by that that you should not consider or consider less what

> has been discussed in the PPM, but *at minimum* this discussion *must

> happen also in this RPD list* to find out if this is really a consensus

> and clearly it doesn't seem to be as there are multiple people who don't

> agree with it. Actually this is a *very controversial point* that may cause

> more issues than the historical holding of unused resources by the legacy

> holders may cause.

>

> Even if you Co-Chairs consider it's good, your personal view can not be a

> decision factor for that to be considered rough consensus.

>

> If this point is automatically considered rough consensus in this way,

> without proper discussion with others that did not have the opportunity to

> participate on the PPM we will certainly appeal from this decision which is

> dismissing many other people who may not agree and have plenty of reasons

> for that.

>

> Fernando

>

>

>

> *From:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 7:43 AM

> *To:* Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> *Cc:* rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net> <rpd at afrinic.net>

> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Decisions and summary on policy proposals discussed

> during the online Policy meeting (AFRINIC 32)

>

>

>

> Dear Fernando,

>

> It was mentioned durring the PPM. Please watch the recordings.

>

> Thanks

>

> Co-Chair

>

>

>

> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:19 AM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>

> wrote:

>

> On 20/09/2020 21:04, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:

>

>

> <clip>

>

>

>

> 10. Resource Transfer Policy

>

> This proposal aims to introduce Inter RIR transfer. However, it has the

> following opposition

>

> a. Issues with Legacy holder transfer is potentially

> considered none-reciprocal by ARIN

>

> b. Potential abuse of AFRINIC free pool without the time

> limit of receiving an allocation from AFRINIC.

>

> Chairs Decision: The proposal is the least contested of all the 3

> competing proposals. However because of the community’s desire and clear

> expression for the need for an Inter RIR transfer, we, the Co-chairs,

> believe that in the interest of the community we should focus on a proposal

> rather than several similar ones. This desire was clearly expressed at the

> AFRINIC 31 meeting in Angola. Therefore, We suggest that the authors of

> this proposal make the following amendments:

>

> · 5.7.3.2 Source entities are not eligible to receive further

> IPv4 allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for 12 months period after the

> transfer.

>

> · 5.7.4.3. Transferred legacy resources will still be regarded as

> legacy resources.

>

>

> I don't remember during the discussion of this proposal someone making a

> point for legacy resources once transferred to remain with legacy status.

> It doesn't make sense at all.

> In all RIRs I know any legacy resources once transferred looses the legacy

> status and that makes *a lot of sense* in order to end up with a

> historical distortion to the system and favor resources end up on

> organizations who really justify for them now a days.

>

> Can the Co-Chairs point in which part of the discussion of this proposal

> this claim was made in order to consider that a rough consensus ? I have

> searched in the RPD Archives on the content of this discussion for months

> and couldn't find any mention to this point.

>

> Thanks

> Fernando

>

> Chairs Decision: Provided that the above are amended, the decisions is

> Rough Consensus is achieved

>

>

>

> Based on the above, The updated version of the follow proposal which

> achieved rough consensus would be posted on the PDWG website

>

> *1. Board Prerogatives *

>

> *2. Resource Transfer Policy*

>

> Therefore, these two policies are now on last call.

>

>

> Co-Chair

>

> PDWG

>

>

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