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[rpd] Decisions and summary on policy proposals discussed during the online Policy meeting (AFRINIC 32)
Arnaud AMELINA
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Tue Sep 22 06:26:17 UTC 2020
+1 @Fernando
Le lun. 21 sept. 2020 à 15:24, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Hello Abdulkarim
>
> So you are taking in consideration something that one mentioned in a
> single day opportunity over what has been discussed for months in the list
> for for a much larger number of people who contributed to it ? You are
> considering what has been discussed in the PPM as final and as something
> that has to be adjusted in the proposal because of that single day
> discussion ?
>
> I am not saying by that that you should not consider or consider less what
> has been discussed in the PPM, but *at minimum* this discussion *must
> happen also in this RPD list* to find out if this is really a consensus
> and clearly it doesn't seem to be as there are multiple people who don't
> agree with it. Actually this is a *very controversial point* that may cause
> more issues than the historical holding of unused resources by the legacy
> holders may cause.
>
> Even if you Co-Chairs consider it's good, your personal view can not be a
> decision factor for that to be considered rough consensus.
>
> If this point is automatically considered rough consensus in this way,
> without proper discussion with others that did not have the opportunity to
> participate on the PPM we will certainly appeal from this decision which is
> dismissing many other people who may not agree and have plenty of reasons
> for that.
>
> Fernando
>
>
>
> *From:* ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
> <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
> *Sent:* Monday, September 21, 2020 7:43 AM
> *To:* Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com> <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* rpd List <rpd at afrinic.net> <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Decisions and summary on policy proposals discussed
> during the online Policy meeting (AFRINIC 32)
>
>
>
> Dear Fernando,
>
> It was mentioned durring the PPM. Please watch the recordings.
>
> Thanks
>
> Co-Chair
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2020 at 2:19 AM Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> On 20/09/2020 21:04, ABDULKARIM OLOYEDE wrote:
>
>
> <clip>
>
>
>
> 10. Resource Transfer Policy
>
> This proposal aims to introduce Inter RIR transfer. However, it has the
> following opposition
>
> a. Issues with Legacy holder transfer is potentially
> considered none-reciprocal by ARIN
>
> b. Potential abuse of AFRINIC free pool without the time
> limit of receiving an allocation from AFRINIC.
>
> Chairs Decision: The proposal is the least contested of all the 3
> competing proposals. However because of the community’s desire and clear
> expression for the need for an Inter RIR transfer, we, the Co-chairs,
> believe that in the interest of the community we should focus on a proposal
> rather than several similar ones. This desire was clearly expressed at the
> AFRINIC 31 meeting in Angola. Therefore, We suggest that the authors of
> this proposal make the following amendments:
>
> · 5.7.3.2 Source entities are not eligible to receive further
> IPv4 allocations or assignments from AFRINIC for 12 months period after the
> transfer.
>
> · 5.7.4.3. Transferred legacy resources will still be regarded as
> legacy resources.
>
>
> I don't remember during the discussion of this proposal someone making a
> point for legacy resources once transferred to remain with legacy status.
> It doesn't make sense at all.
> In all RIRs I know any legacy resources once transferred looses the legacy
> status and that makes *a lot of sense* in order to end up with a
> historical distortion to the system and favor resources end up on
> organizations who really justify for them now a days.
>
> Can the Co-Chairs point in which part of the discussion of this proposal
> this claim was made in order to consider that a rough consensus ? I have
> searched in the RPD Archives on the content of this discussion for months
> and couldn't find any mention to this point.
>
> Thanks
> Fernando
>
> Chairs Decision: Provided that the above are amended, the decisions is
> Rough Consensus is achieved
>
>
>
> Based on the above, The updated version of the follow proposal which
> achieved rough consensus would be posted on the PDWG website
>
> *1. Board Prerogatives *
>
> *2. Resource Transfer Policy*
>
> Therefore, these two policies are now on last call.
>
>
> Co-Chair
>
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