[rpd] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

[Anthony Ubah]

Hello Marcus

Every mailing list is set up for a purpose, and the rpd was set up to serve
as the AFRINIC community’s Resource Policy Discussion List. All these lists
are for one community, and there is a Code of Conduct that guides the
community forums.

If discussions on the list do not align with the purpose, should the
Co-Chairs not be expected to moderate and regulate the community? Is it
disruptive to do what one is expected to do?

 You are right about one thing, “Many people feel frustrated and under
attack....”, however, the following utterances by you are grossly unguided,
and indicative of malice against the elected co-chair(s) and/or one or two
members of the community. Thus the need for moderations.

I think the co-chairs are doing an excellent job at curbing disarray within
the community.



Best Regards,

Anthony


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 6:20 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>
wrote:

>

> Dear Abdulkarim,

>

> You were disruptive by trying to prevent the discussions to ever happen

or happen on rpd.

>

> The bad actions and examples shall be allowed to be called out strongly.

>

> Community ignored your rant and kept discussions going without cochairs

and made progress.

>

> The community does not elect cochairs to censor discussions while chosing

which topics to be discussed on rpd list.

>

> While enforcing CoC is part of your role, it does not prescribe what I

said above. In fact, you have so far not been able to provide an official
reason for censorship of posts by Noah, a senior member of this community

>

> Community elected cochairs are expected to be neutral and mainly organize

and moderate discussions around the PDP. This is one more question about
your neutrality

>

> As we kept saying, a well organized and structured discussion style would

 prevent many deviations and encourage more participation.

>

> Cultural and linguistic diversities plus different levels  of expertise,

which all make the beauty of our community, have to be well exploited for
the good.

>

> Many people feel frustrated and under attack with responses from others

 because of the differences in the understandings.

>

>

>

> Marcus

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:09 PM

> To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> Cc: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>; Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <

ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>; rpd at afrinic.net <rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very

Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

>

> Dear Marcus,

> Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you

would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.

> Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up to

permits.  We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we were
only doing the job the community elected us to do.

> Cheers

> Co-Chair

> Cheers and Have

>

>

> On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

wrote:

>

> I have not seen any response to this query and the followup discussions

on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate and scope of
the PDP.

>

> You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship as

others have said.

>

> Please reinstate immediately Noah’s posting rights with apologies.

>

> Regards,

>

>

> Marcus

>

> ________________________________

> From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>

> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM

> To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>; rpd at afrinic.net <

rpd at afrinic.net>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very

Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

>

> Dear Abdulkarim,

>

> Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you

mentioned in your last email.

>

>

> Regards,

> Daniel

>

> On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <

oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:

>

> Dear Murungi,

> I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is transparency.

What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate someone
attacking you personally.

> Thanks

>

> On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <dmurungi at wia.co.tz> wrote:

>

> +1 @Mark Tinka.

>

> @Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this list.

Granted, some of Noah’s words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate
fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.

>

> Your ‘power’ as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member voices

or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.

>

>

> Regards,

> Daniel

>

>

> > On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> > On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Noah,

> >> Your last  email has clearly violated the last warning earlier issued

> >> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to moderate

> >> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed

> >> after a week.

> >

> > I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are treading

down.

> >

> > Mark.

> >

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