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[rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

Marcus K. G. Adomey madomey at hotmail.com
Sat Jun 6 17:20:10 UTC 2020


Dear Abdulkarim,

You were disruptive by trying to prevent the discussions to ever happen or happen on rpd.

The bad actions and examples shall be allowed to be called out strongly.

Community ignored your rant and kept discussions going without cochairs and made progress.

The community does not elect cochairs to censor discussions while chosing which topics to be discussed on rpd list.

While enforcing CoC is part of your role, it does not prescribe what I said above. In fact, you have so far not been able to provide an official reason for censorship of posts by Noah, a senior member of this community

Community elected cochairs are expected to be neutral and mainly organize and moderate discussions around the PDP. This is one more question about your neutrality

As we kept saying, a well organized and structured discussion style would prevent many deviations and encourage more participation.

Cultural and linguistic diversities plus different levels of expertise, which all make the beauty of our community, have to be well exploited for the good.

Many people feel frustrated and under attack with responses from others because of the differences in the understandings.



Marcus


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From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:09 PM
To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>
Cc: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>; Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>; rpd at afrinic.net <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

Dear Marcus,
Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.
Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up to permits. We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we were only doing the job the community elected us to do.
Cheers
Co-Chair
Cheers and Have


On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com<mailto:madomey at hotmail.com>> wrote:
I have not seen any response to this query and the followup discussions on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate and scope of the PDP.

You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship as others have said.

Please reinstate immediately Noah’s posting rights with apologies.

Regards,


Marcus

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From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz<mailto:dmurungi at wia.co.tz>>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM
To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng<mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>>
Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com<mailto:ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>>; rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net> <rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

Dear Abdulkarim,

Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you mentioned in your last email.


Regards,
Daniel

On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng<mailto:oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>> wrote:

Dear Murungi,
I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is transparency. What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate someone attacking you personally.
Thanks

On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <dmurungi at wia.co.tz<mailto:dmurungi at wia.co.tz>> wrote:
+1 @Mark Tinka.

@Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this list. Granted, some of Noah’s words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.

Your ‘power’ as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member voices or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.


Regards,
Daniel



> On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu<mailto:mark.tinka at seacom.mu>> wrote:

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>

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> On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:

>

>> Dear Noah,

>> Your last email has clearly violated the last warning earlier issued

>> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to moderate

>> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed

>> after a week.

>

> I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are treading down.

>

> Mark.

>

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