[rpd] Cloud Innovation Displays Very Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

[Moriam Omowunmi Sulaimon]

Dear Marcus and Murungi,

Please this mailing list is for policy discussion and it should remain for
that alone. We fully support the Co-chair's decision.

Cheers

On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 12:40 AM Anthony Ubah <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com> wrote:


> Hello Marcus

>

> Every mailing list is set up for a purpose, and the rpd was set up to

> serve as the AFRINIC community’s Resource Policy Discussion List. All these

> lists are for one community, and there is a Code of Conduct that guides the

> community forums.

>

> If discussions on the list do not align with the purpose, should the

> Co-Chairs not be expected to moderate and regulate the community? Is it

> disruptive to do what one is expected to do?

>

>  You are right about one thing, “Many people feel frustrated and under

> attack....”, however, the following utterances by you are grossly unguided,

> and indicative of malice against the elected co-chair(s) and/or one or two

> members of the community. Thus the need for moderations.

>

> I think the co-chairs are doing an excellent job at curbing disarray

> within the community.

>

>

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Anthony

>

>

> On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 6:20 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Abdulkarim,

> >

> > You were disruptive by trying to prevent the discussions to ever happen

> or happen on rpd.

> >

> > The bad actions and examples shall be allowed to be called out strongly.

> >

> > Community ignored your rant and kept discussions going without cochairs

> and made progress.

> >

> > The community does not elect cochairs to censor discussions while

> chosing which topics to be discussed on rpd list.

> >

> > While enforcing CoC is part of your role, it does not prescribe what I

> said above. In fact, you have so far not been able to provide an official

> reason for censorship of posts by Noah, a senior member of this community

> >

> > Community elected cochairs are expected to be neutral and mainly

> organize and moderate discussions around the PDP. This is one more question

> about your neutrality

> >

> > As we kept saying, a well organized and structured discussion style

> would  prevent many deviations and encourage more participation.

> >

> > Cultural and linguistic diversities plus different levels  of expertise,

> which all make the beauty of our community, have to be well exploited for

> the good.

> >

> > Many people feel frustrated and under attack with responses from others

>  because of the differences in the understandings.

> >

> >

> >

> > Marcus

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> > Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 9:09 PM

> > To: Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> > Cc: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>; Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <

> ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>; rpd at afrinic.net <rpd at afrinic.net>

> > Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very

> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

> >

> > Dear Marcus,

> > Yes, I agree that the follow-up discussion was useful and am sure you

> would agree with us that it became useful when no one felt under attack.

> > Its that type of discussions that the code of conduct we all signed up

> to permits.  We were never disruptive maybe you meant constructive as we

> were only doing the job the community elected us to do.

> > Cheers

> > Co-Chair

> > Cheers and Have

> >

> >

> > On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 4:28 PM Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>

> wrote:

> >

> > I have not seen any response to this query and the followup discussions

> on the incident on rpd has proven to be useful for the mandate and scope of

> the PDP.

> >

> > You were just disruptive and you must stop this recurrent censorship as

> others have said.

> >

> > Please reinstate immediately Noah’s posting rights with apologies.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> >

> > Marcus

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Murungi Daniel <dmurungi at wia.co.tz>

> > Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2020 8:11 PM

> > To: ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng>

> > Cc: Ubah Anthony Ikechukwu <ubah.tonyiyke at gmail.com>; rpd at afrinic.net <

> rpd at afrinic.net>

> > Subject: Re: [rpd] [Community-Discuss] Cloud Innovation Displays Very

> Poor, If Not Criminal, Netizenship

> >

> > Dear Abdulkarim,

> >

> > Kindly elaborate on the details of the personal attack and chaos you

> mentioned in your last email.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Daniel

> >

> > On May 31, 2020, at 10:14 PM, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE <

> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Murungi,

> > I have no issues with transparency, infact what I want is transparency.

> What we don't want is chaos. I don't think you would tolerate someone

> attacking you personally.

> > Thanks

> >

> > On Sun, 31 May 2020, 19:36 Murungi Daniel, <dmurungi at wia.co.tz> wrote:

> >

> > +1 @Mark Tinka.

> >

> > @Abdulkarim, it seems you have an issue with transparency on this list.

> Granted, some of Noah’s words may be heavy handed ( he is a passionate

> fellow) but I see no cause for the action you are proposing.

> >

> > Your ‘power’ as Co -PWGD is not to be wielded for stifling member voices

> or punishing what you perceive to be a personal slight.

> >

> >

> > Regards,

> > Daniel

> >

> >

> > > On May 31, 2020, at 10:29 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > On 30/May/20 08:11, ABDULKARIM AYOPO OLOYEDE wrote:

> > >

> > >> Dear Noah,

> > >> Your last  email has clearly violated the last warning earlier issued

> > >> by the Co-Chair. Therefore we are left with no choice than to moderate

> > >> any email you send onto this mailing list. This would be reviewed

> > >> after a week.

> > >

> > > I would have to say that this is a very slippery slope we are treading

> down.

> > >

> > > Mark.

> > >

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