[rpd] End of LAST call (was Re: RPD Digest ...)

[Mike Silber]

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Thanks for your comment Fernando.

I think it is far more difficult than you explain and even less likely to
happen.

That being said - the objection was raised before, without any
justification. A number of us asked the writers to please substantiate
their objection and explain their purported risk. The writers failed to
provide any justification for their view.

Simply repeating an unsubstantiated and frankly unsustainable objection
does not make it valid.

Given there is no technical or legal justification provided, I think the
objection can be disregard as unsubstantiated.

Mike

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 18:36, Fernando Frediani <fhfrediani at gmail.com>
wrote:


> Hello

>

> This is actually not the case.

> If there is a believe any African government can do that this is not true.

> This would be possible only if the Judiciary Power of Mauritius (where

> AfriNic is headquarted) mandates that.

>

> Also if this proposal doesn't pass it is still possible that the Judiciary

> Power mandated AfriNic do the same regardless there is a policy (which is

> an administrative thing) for that or not. This is very unlikely to happen

> though. Therefore any other African Governments cannot do anything so

> easily as thought.

>

> Fernando

> On 30/01/2020 13:14, Blaise Fyama wrote:

>

>

> I do not support the RPKI ROAs for Unallocated and Unassigned Afrinic

> Address Space policy as it raises the concern about the control of

> internet; should we have to let the government take all control of RPKI and

> therefore representing a risk on how to make sure the use of Internet free

> and legitimate. I therefore object it on the the engagement of a free

> internet controlled by the community and its users.

>

>

> Blaise FYAMA

>

> Msc, PhD.

>

> Professeur Associé

>

> Secrétaire Général Académique Honoraire/UL

>

> Doyen de la Faculté des Sciences Informatiques/UL

>

> Chef de Département Génie Electrique/ESI-UNILU

>

> Chef de Service Informatique/Polytech-UNILU

>

> Consultant Informatique BIT/PAEJK

>

> Tel: +243995579515

>

>

>

>

>

> Le jeu. 30 janv. 2020 à 16:52, Kakel Mbumb <kakelmbumb at gmail.com> a

> écrit :

>

>> Hello all, i think RPKI asks for bogon but does not stop bogon and it

>> shall not involve in routing issue. Do we really want it to centralise the

>> control of the internet because it can present potential risk for

>> government to overtake it.

>> Regards..

>>

>>

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>>> Date: Wed, 29 Jan 2020 15:19:17 +0100

>>> From: Sander Steffann <sander at steffann.nl>

>>> To: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>

>>> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net

>>> Subject: Re: [rpd] End of LAST call

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>>> Hi Frank & chairs,

>>>

>>> > There were no new problems or arguments that were not addresses,

>>> during the last call.

>>>

>>> I think this is correct. As a community we should listen and try to

>>> understand all objections. Once they are addressed (but not necessarily

>>> accommodated) they should not block consensus anymore.

>>>

>>> > If that is a wrong understanding, we request guidance from the

>>> co-chairs as to what the remaining problems are.

>>>

>>> It would be useful (at least for proposals which cause much discussion)

>>> if the chairs could make a list of raised objections and whether or not

>>> they have been addressed (where useful with links to the mailing list

>>> archives). That way there is transparency on how their decision was reached.

>>>

>>> One example is

>>> https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/2017-February/011987.html

>>>

>>> I do realise this is a lot of work. In the RIPE region we (when I was

>>> still a chair) often got help from RIPE NCC. They would help us with making

>>> the first draft, and then the chairs would verify that and publish it. It

>>> always remains the responsibility of the chairs, but that doesn't mean they

>>> have to refuse help :)

>>>

>>> Cheers,

>>> Sander

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