[rpd] Legacy holders?

[Owen DeLong]

Do they enforce this requirement in countries where no such license is required?

Do they track the licensing requirements of each of the nations in the service region?

That sounds like a lot of overhead to me.

Owen



> On Jul 2, 2019, at 05:04 , Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

> 

> Andrew

> 

> We all know what clause 6.1 says but I can assure you that Madhvi's team wont play until you prove that you have a license from the local regulator if you intend to build an Internet Infrastructure (ISP) on continent and need resources for the case of an LIR.

> 

> This additional scrutiny don't have to be spelled out on the Bylaws but they are prudent for staff to ensure they don't allocate/assign space to a briefcase LIR.

> 

> Noah

> 

> 

> On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 09:43 Andrew Alston, <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

> Heh – again – there is no requirement to hold a license – anywhere.

> 

>  

> 

> Again – clause 6.1 does not demand a license – it demands the member of AfriNIC is providing services on the continent – it doesn’t say what services – it doesn’t say that it has to be providing those services in the country of domicile – it doesn’t say the services provided have to be related to the resources AfriNIC grants it – it doesn’t say that you can’t use the resources from AfriNIC off continent and use a /32 in Africa for that matter.

> 

>  

> 

> Heh – there are MANY reasons for a company to be domiciled in one country and conducting business in another – so – I find this information a little spurious

> 

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> 

> Andrew

> 

>  

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> From: Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com <mailto:rfg at tristatelogic.com>> 

> Sent: Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:21

> To: AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>>

> Subject: Re: [rpd] Legacy holders?

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> In message <CAEqgTWYs+9b2c4pP6cBAkQAOFXoi+rfOTqohzUz39LaQ13DZmg at mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAEqgTWYs+9b2c4pP6cBAkQAOFXoi+rfOTqohzUz39LaQ13DZmg at mail.gmail.com>>

> Noah <noah at neo.co.tz <mailto:noah at neo.co.tz>> wrote:

> 

> >LIR membership 101 requires that one has a business license and another

> >license from a local communications regulatory authority of the country

> >where they are requesting space from. Member services team from AfriNIC

> >always require this before space is allocated/assigned to an entity.

> 

> That's really very interesting. I didn't know any of this before now.

> (I am learning more and more, every day, by paying attention to the postings

> on this list!)

> 

> Based on what you just said, I took it upon myself to try to find the

> web sites for the local communications regulatory authority of a couple

> of the specific national jurisdictions that Afrinic serves, and that are

> of special interest to me, i.e. Seychelles and Mauritius.

> 

> I think that I found both, but it appears that of the two, only the one

> for Mauritius has an actual published online list of "License Holders":

> 

> https://www.icta.mu/com_licences.html <https://www.icta.mu/com_licences.html>

> 

> I also took it upon myself to try to see to what degree the list of

> "Mauritius" members of Afrinic corresponded with the list of Mauritius

> communications authority license holders.

> 

> Of the thirty one (31) "Mauritius" members of Afrinic listed here:

> 

> https://afrinic.net/membership/list <https://afrinic.net/membership/list>

> 

> Twelve (12) of them are listed as Mauritius communications authority

> license holders. The remaining ninteen (19) are not so listed. These

> are as follows:

> 

> Leal Communication and informatics ltd

> Mauritius Computing Services Ltd

> Millenium Outsourcing Ltd

> MXIT Lifestyle International Ltd

> Mauritius Freeport Development Company Ltd

> Liquid Telecommunications Operations Limited

> SEACOM Limited

> West Indian Ocean Cable Company

> Pamoja Africa

> La Sentinelle Ltd

> MC VISION LTD

> Internet Direct Ltd

> Ireland Blyth Informatics LTD

> University of Mauritius

> Forcepoint Mauritius

> Mauritius Internet Exchange Point

> Woodynet Ltd

> African Network Operators' Group (AFNOG)

> African Network Information Center - ( AfriNIC Ltd. )

> 

> I would guess that it is quite entirely reasonable that those last two are

> not registered at communications companies within Mauritius, because I

> doubt that either one is actually providing commercial communications

> services of any kind within Mauritius. The rest I'm not so sure about.

> 

> At present, I know of no way in which any "outsider" could determine

> which, if any, of the twenty four (24) "Seychelles" members of Afrinic

> are or are not licensed communications providers within that country.

> 

> I'm not trying to make any particular point here. I just wanted to share

> this info with everyone, in case folks other than me might also find it

> interesting.

> 

> 

> Regards,

> rfg

> 

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