[rpd] Legacy holders?

[Noah]

Andrew

We all know what clause 6.1 says but I can assure you that Madhvi's team
wont play until you prove that you have a license from the local regulator
if you intend to build an Internet Infrastructure (ISP) on continent and
need resources for the case of an LIR.

This additional scrutiny don't have to be spelled out on the Bylaws but
they are prudent for staff to ensure they don't allocate/assign space to a
briefcase LIR.

Noah


On Tue, 2 Jul 2019, 09:43 Andrew Alston, <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:


> Heh – again – there is no requirement to hold a license – anywhere.

>

>

>

> Again – clause 6.1 does not demand a license – it demands the member of

> AfriNIC is providing services on the continent – it doesn’t say what

> services – it doesn’t say that it has to be providing those services in the

> country of domicile – it doesn’t say the services provided have to be

> related to the resources AfriNIC grants it – it doesn’t say that you can’t

> use the resources from AfriNIC off continent and use a /32 in Africa for

> that matter.

>

>

>

> Heh – there are MANY reasons for a company to be domiciled in one country

> and conducting business in another – so – I find this information a little

> spurious

>

>

>

> Andrew

>

>

>

> *From:* Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, 2 July 2019 00:21

> *To:* AfriNIC List <rpd at afrinic.net>

> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Legacy holders?

>

>

>

> In message <

> CAEqgTWYs+9b2c4pP6cBAkQAOFXoi+rfOTqohzUz39LaQ13DZmg at mail.gmail.com>

> Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:

>

> >LIR membership 101 requires that one has a business license and another

> >license from a local communications regulatory authority of the country

> >where they are requesting space from. Member services team from AfriNIC

> >always require this before space is allocated/assigned to an entity.

>

> That's really very interesting. I didn't know any of this before now.

> (I am learning more and more, every day, by paying attention to the

> postings

> on this list!)

>

> Based on what you just said, I took it upon myself to try to find the

> web sites for the local communications regulatory authority of a couple

> of the specific national jurisdictions that Afrinic serves, and that are

> of special interest to me, i.e. Seychelles and Mauritius.

>

> I think that I found both, but it appears that of the two, only the one

> for Mauritius has an actual published online list of "License Holders":

>

> https://www.icta.mu/com_licences.html

>

> I also took it upon myself to try to see to what degree the list of

> "Mauritius" members of Afrinic corresponded with the list of Mauritius

> communications authority license holders.

>

> Of the thirty one (31) "Mauritius" members of Afrinic listed here:

>

> https://afrinic.net/membership/list

>

> Twelve (12) of them are listed as Mauritius communications authority

> license holders. The remaining ninteen (19) are not so listed. These

> are as follows:

>

> Leal Communication and informatics ltd

> Mauritius Computing Services Ltd

> Millenium Outsourcing Ltd

> MXIT Lifestyle International Ltd

> Mauritius Freeport Development Company Ltd

> Liquid Telecommunications Operations Limited

> SEACOM Limited

> West Indian Ocean Cable Company

> Pamoja Africa

> La Sentinelle Ltd

> MC VISION LTD

> Internet Direct Ltd

> Ireland Blyth Informatics LTD

> University of Mauritius

> Forcepoint Mauritius

> Mauritius Internet Exchange Point

> Woodynet Ltd

> African Network Operators' Group (AFNOG)

> African Network Information Center - ( AfriNIC Ltd. )

>

> I would guess that it is quite entirely reasonable that those last two are

> not registered at communications companies within Mauritius, because I

> doubt that either one is actually providing commercial communications

> services of any kind within Mauritius. The rest I'm not so sure about.

>

> At present, I know of no way in which any "outsider" could determine

> which, if any, of the twenty four (24) "Seychelles" members of Afrinic

> are or are not licensed communications providers within that country.

>

> I'm not trying to make any particular point here. I just wanted to share

> this info with everyone, in case folks other than me might also find it

> interesting.

>

>

> Regards,

> rfg

>

>

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