[rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs this policy now!

Tue Jun 18 13:30:06 UTC 2019

Hello Paschal, 

For uplinks I agree, who said that remaining resources will not transfer to other RIRs if there is more resource we can do nothing. 

As I said if it's balance it's good for the community. It is for his that I am against this if the resources will be transferred to other RIR in mass. 

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De: "Paschal Ochang" <pascosoft at gmail.com> 
À: "Pascal ANDRIANISA" <pascal at irenala.edu.mg> 
Cc: "JORDI PALET MARTINEZ" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, "rpd" <rpd at afrinic.net> 
Envoyé: Mardi 18 Juin 2019 16:07:46 
Objet: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs this policy now! 

Hello Pascal, 

Just some few questions. Let's say you have a business outside Africa or you are leaving Africa and want to transfer you resources to your new region what do you do? 
Let's say we have exhausted totally what we have in Africa and you need to request a resource from an external region for an uplink what do you do? 

On Tuesday, June 18, 2019, Pascal ANDRIANISA < [ mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg | pascal at irenala.edu.mg ] > wrote: 

Thank you Jordi 
if in the opposite case the remaining resources at AFRINIC will be transferred to other RIRs. It is true that I am not against but I do not agree that the current resources insufficient according to the information I received since AFRINIC-29 will be transferred to other RIR. 
If you can guarantee this balance of resources transfer I think it will be logical for AFRINIC. Unlike so if AFRINIC has a lot of resources it will be good for the community. 

Regards, 

Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA 
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Envoyé: Mardi 18 Juin 2019 14:55:02 
Objet: Re: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs this policy now! 

Hi Pascal, 

Precisely what you said is the argument in favor of this policy proposal, not against. 

AFRINIC don't have enough resources. The only way to receive resources is a policy that allows that other regions that are "giving up" resources, can get them. 

This is the case for LACNIC (the same policy proposal reached consensus in the last meeting and yesterday the consensus decision was handed out to the board for the final ratification), and for AFRINIC. 

AFRINIC must have an equivalent policy proposal to the ones that exist in the other regions, otherwise, you will not get sufficient resources for the continued implementation of IPv4 in the region and this will also be a barrier for the IPv6 deployment. 

Regards, 
Jordi 
@jordipalet 

El 18/6/19 10:48, "Pascal ANDRIANISA" < [ mailto:pascal at irenala.edu.mg | pascal at irenala.edu.mg ] > escribió: 

Hi Jordi, 
I read the policy proposal for IPV4 Inter-RIR Transfert. 
The article => [ https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1#proposal | https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1#proposal ] 
I think this is not the benefit of AFRINIC as resources are currently insufficient for AFRINIC. 
Otherwise it is necessary to balance the transfers between RIR because at least the number of resources is limited to sending to other RIRs. 

I do not support this policy for this reason, The AFRINIC's resources are not enough for AFRICA, why transfer them elsewhere .... 

Pascal Heriliva ANDRIANISA 
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Envoyé: Samedi 15 Juin 2019 13:23:23 
Objet: [rpd] inputs on IPv4 Inter-RIR policy proposals - AFRINIC needs this policy now! 

Hi all, 

I wonder if anyone has inputs on the policy proposals for IPv4 Inter-RIR transfers. 

[ https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1 | https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-001-d1 ] 

and 

[ https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1 | https://www.afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2019-v4-002-d1 ] 

I will be presenting both of them together on Wednesday 19th. If you're not in Kampala, make sure to participate remotely ( [ https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely | https://www.internetsummit.africa/en/participate-remotely ] ), so we can resolve any doubts on the spot. 

This is a key issue for AFRINIC, which now is the *only* RIR not allowing those transfers. 

AFRINIC is soon (probably around end of this year) entering in exhaustion phase 2, so it will become more and more difficult to obtain IPv4. If transfers from other regions aren't allowed, this will be an added difficulty for the Internet growth in the region, and increase the difficulties for the continued IPv6 deployment. 

The region needs this policy *now*, because the implementation requires several months as there is a need to coordinate with the systems of the other RIRs, in order to ensure a transparent transfers process. 

So, what is your opinion? 

Regards, 
Jordi 
@jordipalet 

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