[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 153, Issue 23

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I’m fine either way, but in many occasions, in many RIR and similar meetings, I recall no having that many comments in the open mic. And process manipulation is easy to do, simply by making sure that the maximum allotted time to the open mic is respected.

Regards,

Jordi

El 9/6/19 18:07, "Owen DeLong" <owen at delong.com> escribió:

I am fine with the idea of placing the election after the policy discussions and before the open mic.

I would be opposed to placing it after the open mic, as the open mic is often a long-duration free-for-all and allowing said to precede the election would be an invitation to abuse of the process to manipulate the election.

Owen

On Jun 9, 2019, at 01:03 , Joel Gogwim <gogwim at unijos.edu.ng> wrote:

Dear Dewole, all,

I thought holding the election after open mic would be better so that there would be enough time instead of rushing to covered the day's agenda, as suggested by Jordi earlier. 

Joel Gogwim. 

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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 23:06:36 +0100
From: Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, rpd at afrinic.net
Cc: 2019 NomCom <nomcom2019 at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom feedback to PDWG
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Sorry, the election slot is missing from the draft agenda I shared 
earlier. It may be inefficient to have election at the start of the 
policy day so it is planned to hold towards the end of the day. Holding 
the election before the open mic will allow working group members also 
provide feedback on the process during the open mic.

The contents of 
https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019 remain 
unchanged from the pre-protest announcement. Perhaps we should wait for 
NomCom to tell the working group who the co-chair candidates are (before 
we start the questioning)? For future PDWG elections, the questions 
could be included as part of the information to provide during the 
nominations stage. Or maybe some have already been asked by NomCom and 
the candidates only need to decide what they wish to share with us.

One would imagine that the Elections Committee already has a plan for 
incorporating remote participants who will naturally expect to 
participate in the co-chair selection as allowed by the PDP.

Regards,
Dewole.

On 6/8/2019 10:07 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> Hi Dewole, all,
>
> I will agree with your suggestion, it is very important to keep continuity of the existing co-chairs.
>
> Also, I think to avoid wasting precious time, it may be good to consider running the election at the end of the open mic, so even if the election process is delayed for whatever, reason, the PDP discussion time is respected.
>
> One of the elected co-chairs will be running for just one year, or how it will be handled in order to get the staggered terms?
>
> Finally, I've a question for the NomCom and the PDP-chair candidates. And I think this is very important for a successful knowledge by the community to whom they are electing. This is not about electing "your best friend for driving a party", but the people that better knows the PDP and has already been following it.
>
> So, I will like to know, for each of the candidates, since when they have been in the RPD mailing list, how they have contributed in the discussions in the list and meetings, or even with policy proposals. How the candidates are going to support the PDP, increase community participation, etc. Also, we need to understand if they have actively supported or non-supported any of the actual policy proposals, so we can avoid electing two chairs that may have a bias on the same policy proposal.
>
> Reading the actual CVs at https://www.afrinic.net/candidate-slate-for-pdwg-election-2019, I don't think all the candidates have that information right now.
>
> So, can the NomCom prepare a document answering (with verified responses to some extent) those questions for each of the candidate and publish it together with the CVs ?
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>   
>
> ?El 8/6/19 21:10, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng> escribi?:
>
>      A simple solution to clear any confusion would be for the Nomination
>      Committee to send out a fresh announcement listing the final slate of
>      candidates after their considerations have been done.
>      
>      Elections Committee should at this point also state how the seats would
>      be filled so that everyone is clear about that. There have been
>      suggestions on how to fill the positions; better to sort them out now
>      rather than waste scarce time on the policy day.
>      
>      My suggestion (and I may be biased) is this:
>      Since a current co-chair (Sami) is running, show of hands to see if the
>      working group is in support of Sami retaining his seat. If majority in
>      support of Sami continuing, then remainder of the election is for one
>      seat going to whichever of the remaining candidates has the maximum votes.
>      
>      If the outcome of the first vote is not in favour of current co-chair
>      taking a seat by default, then second round of voting can be for 2 seats
>      possibly using the option of higher votes getting the longer term.
>      
>      Again, this is just my point of view.
>      
>      Regards,
>      
>      Dewole.
>      
>      On 6/8/2019 5:25 PM, Ish Sookun wrote:
>      > Hi Serge,
>      >
>      > On 6/8/19 2:21 PM, Iyedi Goma wrote:
>      >> The Nomination Committee reviewed the nomination of the persons who
>      >> submitted their documentation.  The Nomination Committee Chair contacted
>      >> each nominee to notify him/her of the decision.
>      >>
>      > Is this particular update referring to all the nominees, nominees that
>      > complained or only nominees that remained after the NomCom filter.
>      >
>      > The text "persons who submitted their documentation" requires more
>      > clarity IMHO.
>      >
>      > Regards,
>      >
>      > Ish Sookun
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2019 23:14:19 +0100
From: Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng>
To: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>, rpd
        <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Proposal Update received: Internet Number Resources
        Review by AFRINIC
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Thank you for this, Jordi.

On 6/8/2019 10:23 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
> Hi Dewole, all,
>
> In order to facilitate the comparison of the text with the previous 
> version, and better understand the changes, I?ve done an on-line diff:
>
> https://www.diffchecker.com/pCZM8rxA
>
> I guess this can be also useful for other folks from the community.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jordi
>
> El 8/6/19 20:30, "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng 
> <mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>> escribi?:
>
> Dear PDWG members,
> This is to inform you that authors of the policy proposal named "Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC" have submitted an updated version (Draft version 8) as included below. The URL will be shared once published online.
> Please take some time to go through the proposal contents and provide your feedback.
> Thank you.
> PDWG Co-Chairs
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ------------------- Begin 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> ? ? Name : Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC (Draft 8)
> ? ? Ref. Name: AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT08
> ? ? Status: Under Discussion
> ? ? Date: 7 June 2019
>
> Authors:
> ? ? ? ? (a) Amelina A. A. Arnaud | <arnaud.amelina at togorer.tg 
> <mailto:arnaud.amelina at togorer.tg>> | AUF/TogoRER
> ? ? ? ? (b) Jean-Baptiste Millogo |<jean.millogo at orange.com 
> <mailto:jean.millogo at orange.com>>| Orange Burkina
> ? ? ? ? (c) Marcus ADOMEY ?<madomey at ug.edu.gh 
> <mailto:madomey at ug.edu.gh>> ?| University of Ghana
>
> 13.0 Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal
>
> As Internet Number resources are finite, their allocation is based on 
> the operational needs of end-users and Internet Services Providers, 
> while avoiding stockpiling in accordance with RFC7020, IPv4 Allocation 
> Policy CPM 5.5, IPv6 Allocation and assignment policy CPM 6.5 and 
> Policy for Autonomous System Numbers (ASN) Management in the AFRINIC 
> region CPM 7.0.Section 4 of the Registration Service Agreement (RSA) 
> provides the framework for investigations of the usage of allocated 
> Internet Number resources, defines members? obligation to cooperate 
> and the measures to be taken by AFRINIC in case of failure to comply. 
> The lack of such investigation or regular control can lead to 
> inefficient usage of the Internet Number resources, to stockpiling and 
> other type of abuses.
>
> 13.0.1 Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem
>
> In order to ensure efficient and appropriate use of resources, AFRINIC 
> shall conduct regular reviews of resource utilisation held by its 
> members. This would allow recovery of any type of resource, where 
> usage is not in compliance with the RSA. Those resources can be 
> reallocated for better usage.
>
> 13.0.2 Proposal
>
> The policy proposal will modify the CPM as follows:
>
> Insert a section 13 to the CPM as follows:
>
> 13.0 Internet Number Resources Review
>
> Regular reviews of resource utilisation are conducted by AFRINIC to 
> ensure efficient and appropriate usage of resources. This allows for 
> recovery of any type of resource where usage is not in compliance with 
> the RSA; to allow such resources to be reallocated for better usage.
>
> 13.1 The reviews shall be based on compliance with the terms outlined 
> in the RSA and Allocation/Assignment Policies.
>
> 13.2 The reviews cover all allocated/Assigned resources, but priority 
> goes to IPv4 and ASN mappable to two-octet ASN.
>
> 13.3 Classes of review: Members to be reviewed shall be selected 
> according to the following classes:
>
> 13.3.1 Random
>
> The member is chosen by AFRINIC at random between the members who has 
> not been reviewed for any other reasons in ?the preceding 24 months.
>
>
> 13.3.2 Selected
>
> ?Member is selected because of an internal report or due to a lack of 
> contact between the AFRINIC and the member.
>
> 13.3.3 Reported:
>
> Here, members are reviewed either because:
>
> A) They have requested the review themselves or
>
> B) There has been a community complaint made against them that 
> warrants investigation. Complaints shall be backed by evidence and 
> AFRINIC staff shall evaluate the facts as appropriate to conduct the 
> review. However this review is not applicable to a member ?with the 
> same resources portfolio on which a full review has been completed in 
> the preceding 24 months.
>
> ?AFRINIC staff may, at its sole discretion, after having assessed the 
> nature of the evidence found in the community complaint, require that 
> such evidence be (i) submitted in the form of a sworn affidavit or 
> (ii) declared to be true before a Commissioner of Oath.
>
> 13.4 In case of non-compliance and if evidence has been established in 
> accordance with:
>
> ? ? ?Breach of AFRINIC policies
> ? ? ?Breach of the provisions of the registration service agreement or 
> other legal agreements between the organisation holding the resource 
> and AFRINIC.
>
> AFRNIC shall initiate the resource recovery process on the portion of 
> addresses found to be noncompliant.
>
> A) AFRINIC shall attempt to contact the organisation and correct any 
> discrepancy towards the RSA. Except in cases of fraudulent resource 
> acquisition or ?unlawful usage and abuse, the organization shall be 
> given a minimum of six(6) months to effect the return of the resources.
>
> If the organisation is cooperative and working in good faith to 
> substantially restore compliance or has a valid need for additional 
> time to renumber out of the affected blocks, AFRINIC shall negotiate a 
> longer term.
>
> The acceptance level of compliance and duration of the longer term are 
> at AFRINIC staff discretion.
>
> B) If the situation cannot be rectified and the member did not 
> transfer the resources to meet other AFRINIC-approved needs as per 
> adopted policies
>
> ?AFRINIC shall publish the resources to be recovered for a period of 
> three (3) months; during which the organisation may at any time, seek 
> compliance or transfer the resources to other members
>
> ?After this period, the resource shall be recovered and therefore the 
> records of the previous holder of the recovered resource shall be 
> updated in AFRINIC?s databases.
>
> C) ?Any Internet Number Resources recovered under this policy may be 
> assigned/allocated under existing Allocation and Assignment Policies.
>
> 13.5 Appeal procedure
>
> Reviewed members who are not satisfied have the right to appeal 
> against the results on the review within the four weeks following 
> communication of the results by AFRINIC. Appeals shall follow an 
> arbitration process as provided for in the
> Code de Procedure Civile (Code of Civil Procedure) of the Republic of 
> Mauritius. AFRINIC may, on request from an aggrieved party, suggest a 
> pool of arbitrators who shall be knowledgeable volunteers from the 
> community.
>
> 13.6 Compliance Report
>
> AFRINIC shall publish an annual meaningful report describing review 
> activities, in accordance with all applicable laws and regulations.
>
> 13.7 Acknowledgements
>
> The authors thank Ms Wafa Dahmani Zaafouri (become Afrinic GC Chair), 
> Mr Serge ILUNGA (become Afrinic Board member) ?and Mr Alain P. Aina 
> for their ?contributions ?in the development of this Policy proposal.
>
> The authors also thank the community for the discussions and 
> contributions.
>
> 4.0 Revision History
>
> 18 May 2016
> ? Version 1.0
> - First Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT01
> - Posted on RPD list
>
> 05 Aug 2016
> ? Version 2.0
> - Second Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT02
> - Change on the policy?s name
> - Addition of the Acknowledgement section
> - Rephrasing of section 3.3.3
>
> 18 Nov 2016
> Version 3.0
> - Third Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT03
> - Update of section 3.3.3 from discussions on mailing list
> - Update of section 3.7 (Acknowledgements) to thank the community for 
> discussions and contributions
>
> 11 Apr 2017
> Version 4.0
> - Fourth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT04
> - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.4
> - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.5
> - Update and Rephrasing of section 3.6
>
> 21 Oct. 2107
> Version 5.0
> - Fifth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT05
> - Adding the paragraph C to 13.3.3. according to the legal counsel 
> proposition
> - Rephrasing the paragraph 13.5 to comply with staff and legal assessment
> - Rephrasing the paragraph 13.6 to comply with staff assessment and 
> avoid any ambiguity
> - Changing the co-authors list
> - Updating the Acknowledgement session
> - Amending 13.4 (B) to ?reflect the Transfer policies
>
> 06 Apr. 2018
> Version 6.0
> - Sixth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT06
> - Removing categorisation between membership in random class section 
> 13.3.1
>
> 06 Apr. 2019
> Version 07
> - Seventh Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT07
> - Modifying section 13.4 Paragraph A) to clarify the resources 
> recovery process: set conditions ?under which a member could be given 
> longer term ?to effect the return of ?affected resources.
>
> 29 may. 2019
> Version 08
> - ?Eighth Draft AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT08
> - ?Section 13.3.1 changes to ?: "..The member is chosen by AFRINIC at 
> random between the members who has not been reviewed for any other 
> reasons in ?the preceding 24 months."
> - ?Section ?13.4 ?last paragraph changes to : "AFRINIC shall initiate 
> ... on the portion of addresses found to be noncompliant."
> - ? Section 13.5 changes to ??Reviewed members who are not satisfied 
> have the right to appeal against the results on the review within the 
> four weeks following communication of the results by AFRINIC??..?
> - ?Typos and grammatical errors fixed.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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