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[rpd] Nomcom request for feedback

Fabian Jr afabbie at hotmail.com
Fri Jun 7 07:47:33 UTC 2019 

from my previous experience ...the so called Secretariat Team seems to overshadow the NOMCOM in carrying out their activities

i think that has to change as well, let the NOMCOM be in full charge ...the so called Secretariat seems to work moatly with the NOMCOM chair !

Excuse.Typo


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Subject: [rpd] Nomcom request for feedback
From: Eucharia Maryann
To: rpd at afrinic.net
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I agree that the nomcom should reconsider those candidate that was removed because they fail to submit their information as when requested by nomcom.

It wasn't their fault that they were not able to submit the information requested as at when requested.

The email, not only that it was too sudden, the deadline for submission was also extremely too short.

Also I suggest that a proper and very clear procedure that qualifies a candidate for any position should be documented along side with all required documents to avoid misconception and misunderstanding within the AFRINIC community.

Thanks.

Humbly
Eucharia

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   1. Re: Nomcom request for feedback (Frank Habicht)
   2. Re: Nomcom request for feedback (Anne-vivien Paris)
   3. Re: Nomcom request for feedback (Fabian Jr)


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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 15:36:43 +0300
From: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz<mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>>
To: rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom request for feedback
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I support this.
Frank Habicht

On 06/06/2019 13:43, Daniel Yakmut via RPD wrote:
> Good info, now that it has been established that guidelines were not
> followed, we can correct the situation by allowing the other candidates
> participate in the election. However, they can be requested to submit
> the required documents ASAP.
>
> Simply,
> Daniel
>
>
> On Jun 6, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com<mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>
> <mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com<mailto:silber.mike at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>
>> Paschal
>>
>> The roadmap was published:?https://afrinic.net/committees/nomcom
>>
>> It just does not seem to have been followed and no updates given to
>> the community or nominees as to potential delays and the reasons therefor.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>> On 6 Jun 2019, at 11:57, Paschal Ochang <pascosoft at gmail.com<mailto:pascosoft at gmail.com>
>>> <mailto:pascosoft at gmail.com<mailto:pascosoft at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Based in this outcome isn't it proper to define a clear roadmap from
>>> the announcement of positions to publishing of names of candidates.
>>> If one argues that there are already? already laid down guidelines
>>> then how are deviations from these guidelines handled. This will
>>> boost the confidence of future volunteers because it is stands I
>>> think the candidates trust has dwindled a little bit on the fairness
>>> of the current system. A quick response from noncom should douse this
>>> perception.
>>>
>>
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 22:29:10 +0900
From: Anne-vivien Paris <a.v.p at outsideheaven.com<mailto:a.v.p at outsideheaven.com>>
To: Iyedi Goma <iyedigoma at gmail.com<mailto:iyedigoma at gmail.com>>
Cc: 2019 NomCom <nomcom2019 at afrinic.net<mailto:nomcom2019 at afrinic.net>>, rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom request for feedback
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I agree that a clearer definition of the procedure is needed. This whole
election shall be transparent and fair - right now I don?t see any
transparency when some candidates claimed that they have been taken off
from the list even they submitted their application on time.

It?s like the committee is taking off people at their wish - what we need
is an open and transparent process instead of a black box.

This whole thing shows that this problem of NONCOM shall be given more
attention.

Vivien

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 5:12 PM, Iyedi Goma <iyedigoma at gmail.com<mailto:iyedigoma at gmail.com>> wrote:

> Dear community,
>
> Veuillez trouvez la version fran?aise ci dessous.
>
> The nomination committee received a question about the process for the
> election of two PDWG co-chairs as one of the open seats is for a two-year
> team and the other open seat is for a one-year term. The nomination
> committee contacted the Afrinic elections committee to request the process
> document for the elections. The nomination committee was informed that
> there isn?t any documented process for the election of two PDWG co-chairs.
>
> The nomination committee recommends  that the process for the election of
> the two PDWG co-chairs should be documented so that the working group
> understand how  the process works.
>
> There were nine nominations for the two the PDWG co-chair seats.  After
> reviewing the nominations, the nomination committee found that  there only
> four candidates who submitted the required information before the endtime.
> The nomination committee was contacted by four other nominees  as their
> names did not appear in the announcement which was sent to the RPD mailing
> list.
>
> The nomination committee would like to solicit the feedback of the PDWG on
> the above by Friday 7  of June at 23:59 UTC
>
>
>
> Cher membre de la communaut?
>
> Le comit? de nomination avait re?u une question d?un membre de la
> communaut? lors d?une session de sensibilisation sur le processus de
> r?partition des deux postes  de co-pr?sidence pour le PDWG. Il est
> important de souligner que les deux mandatures ne poss?dent pas la m?me
> dur?e, un poste pour une ann?e et une seconde pour deux ann?es, la question
> est celle de savoir comment on attribue les postes ? chacun des postulants.
>
> Au regard de l'importance de la question le comit? de nomination avait
> contact? AFRINIC pour comprendre s?il y avait des documents  qui
> soutenaient ledit processus. Ce que nous avons compris de la r?ponse du
> comit? d? ?lection qu il existe pas de proc?dure ?crite proprement dite.
>
> Le comit? de nomination recommande fortement que le processus ?lectoral
>  soit r?dig? et valid? afin de faciliter la t?che du groupe de travail.
>
>
> En ce qui concerne les candidatures pour les ?lections  de la
> co-pr?sidence du PDWG , le comit? de nomination avait re?u neuf pr?tendus
> candidatures. Apr?s la phase de  collecte d'information suppl?mentaire nous
> avons re?us que quatres dossiers de candidatures. Apr?s la publication des
> candidatures le comit? de nomination a ?t? contact? par quatre des autres
> pr?tendus  et ils ont soumis leur dossiers.
>
> Dans le souci de transparence et d??quit? nous souhaitons solliciter
> l?avis du PDWG sur les ?l?ments ?voqu?s. Le comit? de nomination
> souhaiterait avoir votre retour d?ici ce vendredi 7 juin ? 23h59 TUC.
>
>
>
> Serge-Parfait Goma
>
> Afrinic 2019 Nomcom Chair
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>
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Best regards

Vivien
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 16:23:57 +0000
From: Fabian Jr <afabbie at hotmail.com<mailto:afabbie at hotmail.com>>
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This has been a practice for a while ..
once that axe cut me i think i did not cry enough ....few.community members could hear me!

let's change a course now !

Excuse.Typo


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [rpd] Nomcom request for feedback
From: Anne-vivien Paris
To: Iyedi Goma
CC: 2019 NomCom ,rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>

I agree that a clearer definition of the procedure is needed. This whole election shall be transparent and fair - right now I don?t see any transparency when some candidates claimed that they have been taken off from the list even they submitted their application on time.

It?s like the committee is taking off people at their wish - what we need is an open and transparent process instead of a black box.

This whole thing shows that this problem of NONCOM shall be given more attention.

Vivien

On Thu, 6 Jun 2019 at 5:12 PM, Iyedi Goma <iyedigoma at gmail.com<mailto:iyedigoma at gmail.com><mailto:iyedigoma at gmail.com<mailto:iyedigoma at gmail.com>>> wrote:

Dear community,


Veuillez trouvez la version fran?aise ci dessous.


The nomination committee received a question about the process for the election of two PDWG co-chairs as one of the open seats is for a two-year team and the other open seat is for a one-year term. The nomination committee contacted the Afrinic elections committee to request the process document for the elections. The nomination committee was informed that there isn?t any documented process for the election of two PDWG co-chairs.


The nomination committee recommends  that the process for the election of the two PDWG co-chairs should be documented so that the working group understand how  the process works.


There were nine nominations for the two the PDWG co-chair seats.  After reviewing the nominations, the nomination committee found that  there only four candidates who submitted the required information before the endtime. The nomination committee was contacted by four other nominees  as their names did not appear in the announcement which was sent to the RPD mailing list.


The nomination committee would like to solicit the feedback of the PDWG on the above by Friday 7  of June at 23:59 UTC




Cher membre de la communaut?


Le comit? de nomination avait re?u une question d?un membre de la communaut? lors d?une session de sensibilisation sur le processus de r?partition des deux postes  de co-pr?sidence pour le PDWG. Il est important de souligner que les deux mandatures ne poss?dent pas la m?me dur?e, un poste pour une ann?e et une seconde pour deux ann?es, la question est celle de savoir comment on attribue les postes ? chacun des postulants.

Au regard de l'importance de la question le comit? de nomination avait contact? AFRINIC pour comprendre s?il y avait des documents  qui soutenaient ledit processus. Ce que nous avons compris de la r?ponse du comit? d? ?lection qu il existe pas de proc?dure ?crite proprement dite.


Le comit? de nomination recommande fortement que le processus ?lectoral  soit r?dig? et valid? afin de faciliter la t?che du groupe de travail.



En ce qui concerne les candidatures pour les ?lections  de la co-pr?sidence du PDWG , le comit? de nomination avait re?u neuf pr?tendus candidatures. Apr?s la phase de  collecte d'information suppl?mentaire nous avons re?us que quatres dossiers de candidatures. Apr?s la publication des candidatures le comit? de nomination a ?t? contact? par quatre des autres pr?tendus  et ils ont soumis leur dossiers.


Dans le souci de transparence et d??quit? nous souhaitons solliciter l?avis du PDWG sur les ?l?ments ?voqu?s. Le comit? de nomination souhaiterait avoir votre retour d?ici ce vendredi 7 juin ? 23h59 TUC.




Serge-Parfait Goma


Afrinic 2019 Nomcom Chair

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Vivien
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