[rpd] Fwd: [arin-ppml] Micfo

[Noah]

On Thu, 16 May 2019, 19:19 Frank Habicht, <geier at geier.ne.tz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On 16/05/2019 19:02, Noah wrote:
> > On Thu, 16 May 2019, 18:19 Frank Habicht, <geier at geier.ne.tz
> > <mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>> wrote:
> >     I just say that with the current RSA effective action by AfriNIC is
> >     possible. [1]
> >
> >     And that's all that matters.
> >
> >
> > Others are saying otherwise and I am not sure if there is any evidence
> > to show that the AfriNIC RSA is effective in terms of ensuring
> > compliance in cases of abuse or fraud....
>
> I don't need evidence that "the AfriNIC RSA is effective". I just
> believe it.
>
> You need to show evidence that AfriNIC RSA is NOT effective, if you (or
> someone else) want(s) to justify a policy change. We're waiting for it.
>
> In the ARIN region they call this the "burden of proof".
> I'm ok with the status quo.
>
>
> > In the past some members have closed their entities and their INR
> > recovered while others have voluntarily returned INR as per records from
> > AfriNIC....
>
> Sorry: irrelevant.
>
> >     PS: ARIN is different from AfriNIC. there's a reason there are 5
> >     different RIRs.
> >
> >
> > Well dont we all know that we have 5 different RIR's...........
> >
> > While you may believe they are different, their similarities outweigh
> > their differences imho
>
> and the differences are enough to justify "duplication" of having 5
> organisations doing "the same thing". [1]
>
> > and the Internet Protocol is the same across the
> > board.
>
> Ehm.... we knew this. But thanks.
>
> Greetings,
> Frank
>
> [1] according to Owen they made policy additions to limit the powers of
> the RIR to go after members.
>
> PS: am I understanding it right that this discussion is still about
> AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-06 "Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"?
>

Frank,

lets not get off-topic here with all the RIS are different or similar
etc... its not a competition

My points were already made, so i wont go into the back and forth.

Noah
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