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[rpd] Fwd: [arin-ppml] Micfo

Owen DeLong owen at
Wed May 15 01:29:23 UTC 2019

Attn: Marcus

Please note the considerations by ARIN regarding this recent fraudster and the lengths to which ARIN is going to avoid unnecessary harm to downstream customers to the extent possible.


> Begin forwarded message:
> From: John Curran <jcurran at>
> Subject: Re: [arin-ppml] Micfo
> Date: May 14, 2019 at 15:00:44 PDT
> To: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at>
> Cc: "arin-ppml at" <arin-ppml at>
> Ronald - 
> ARIN will take action to correct issuance of resources against requests determined to be fraudulent - but that does not preclude valid requests from the same entities, with properly issued resources being used to serve customers (many of which are likely to have done nothing wrong.)
> I would recommend careful consideration of any policy that starts assigning labels to entities and requires unilateral revocation based on those same labels – both because of the potential for harm to innocent parties, and the potential for abuse (ie speculative fraud reports against a competitors becomes a potential weapon.)
> Thanks!
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO
> American Registry for Internet Numbers
>> On May 14, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at> wrote:
>> ...
>> Don't get me wrong.  I am breaking out the champagne over ARIN's victory
>> here, but it is somewhat of a pyrrhic one if this shchmuck is still going
>> to be allowed to operate on the Internet, from ANRI-issued space, alongside
>> respectable people and companies.
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