<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Attn: Marcus<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Please note the considerations by ARIN regarding this recent fraudster and the lengths to which ARIN is going to avoid unnecessary harm to downstream customers to the extent possible.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">John Curran <<a href="mailto:jcurran@arin.net" class="">jcurran@arin.net</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [arin-ppml] Micfo</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">May 14, 2019 at 15:00:44 PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Ronald F. Guilmette" <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Cc: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:arin-ppml@arin.net" class="">arin-ppml@arin.net</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">Ronald - <br class=""><br class="">ARIN will take action to correct issuance of resources against requests determined to be fraudulent - but that does not preclude valid requests from the same entities, with properly issued resources being used to serve customers (many of which are likely to have done nothing wrong.)<br class=""><br class="">I would recommend careful consideration of any policy that starts assigning labels to entities and requires unilateral revocation based on those same labels – both because of the potential for harm to innocent parties, and the potential for abuse (ie speculative fraud reports against a competitors becomes a potential weapon.)<br class=""><br class="">Thanks!<br class="">/John<br class=""><br class="">John Curran<br class="">President and CEO<br class="">American Registry for Internet Numbers<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On May 14, 2019, at 5:36 PM, Ronald F. Guilmette <<a href="mailto:rfg@tristatelogic.com" class="">rfg@tristatelogic.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">...<br class="">Don't get me wrong. I am breaking out the champagne over ARIN's victory<br class="">here, but it is somewhat of a pyrrhic one if this shchmuck is still going<br class="">to be allowed to operate on the Internet, from ANRI-issued space, alongside<br class="">respectable people and companies.<br class=""></blockquote>_______________________________________________<br class="">ARIN-PPML<br class="">You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to<br class="">the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List (<a href="mailto:ARIN-PPML@arin.net" class="">ARIN-PPML@arin.net</a>).<br class="">Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at:<br class=""><a href="https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml" class="">https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml</a><br class="">Please contact info@arin.net if you experience any issues.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></body></html>