[rpd] Softlanding-Bis decision appeal

Fri Dec 1 09:30:06 UTC 2017

+1 mike

> On Dec 1, 2017, at 13:27, Mike Silber <silber.mike at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Jackson
> 
> Like Andrew or loath him - I regard your comments below as an ad hominem attack and unacceptable in the context of the policy development process.
> 
> I would urge you to withdraw these remarks and engage on the substance.
> 
> I note your very dismissive response to the objections as irrelevant and your refusal to actually engage on the substance. You may consider the objections so trivial as to not warrant a response - however in the absence of real responses, I don’t see how the proposal can be moved into final call.
> 
> On the grounds of procedural irregularity alone, I object to this policy. I reserve my right to respond on the substance should the need arise.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
>> On 1 Dec 2017, at 11:17, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Your objections as stated before are iffy, out-of context, off-topic
>> and irrelevant to the spirit and principle behind soft landing.
>> 
>> The community will move forward and will not entertain ill intentioned
>> and malicious people hijacking a drive to protect a continent's
>> resource from pillaging.
>> 
>> Go back and read the original proposal behind which the global
>> redistribution of the last 5 /8s to each individual RIR was  premised,
>> and the actual problem statement in Soft Landing BIs which aligns
>> exactly with that original policy.
>> 
>> https://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/135-afpub-2009-v4-001
>> 
>> 
>> /////////////////////////////
>> The IANA pool of allocation units of IPv4 addresses (/8s) is
>> decreasing rapidly; and to continue applying a global coordinated
>> policy for distribution of the last piece(s) of each RIR's unallocated
>> address block does not match the reality of the situation in each RIR
>> region. Issues each RIR region will face during the exhaustion period
>> vary by region as the level of development of IPv4 and IPv6 are widely
>> different. As a result, applying a global coordinated policy may
>> adequately address issues in a certain region while it could not be
>> work for the others.
>> 
>> For example, in a region where late comers desperately need even small
>> blocks of IPv4 addresses to access to the IPv4 Internet, a policy that
>> defines the target of allocations/assignments of IPv4 address space to
>> the late comers would be appropriate in such region. This would allow
>> availability of IPv4 address space for such requirements for more
>> years.
>> 
>> Another example comes from difference in IPv6 deployment rate. For a
>> region where IPv6 deployment rate is low, measures may be necessary to
>> prolong IPv4 address life for the existing business as well as for new
>> businesses until networks are IPv6 ready. Some regions may have strong
>> needs to secure IPv4 address space for translators.
>> 
>> A globally coordinated policy which addresses all issues listed above
>> (and/or others) to meet the needs for all RIR regions may result in
>> not solving issues in any of the regions. So a new global policy
>> proposal , a revised version of policy proposals "AFPUB-2007-v4-001"
>> and "AFPUB-2007-v4-002", is proposed to replace the current "on
>> demand" policy for allocating of the remaining IPv4 address space to
>> RIRs.
>> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>> 
>> 
>> You and your so-called friends MUST stop wasting the community's time.
>> 
>> Africa will move forward irrespective. Neocolonialism is so last century.
>> 
>> J
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Andrew Alston
>> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Considering the decision to take the soft-landing bis policy into last call
>>> yesterday – the following individuals wish to state that we are officially
>>> appealing the decision by the co-chairs in this regard:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Ben Maddison
>>> 
>>> Andrew Alston
>>> 
>>> Mark Elkins
>>> 
>>> Christopher Mwangi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Over the last 2 years there have been sustained and unaddressed objections
>>> to this policy.  There have been multiple requests by this community to
>>> withdraw this policy.  There was a statement by the authors in Mauritius
>>> that the policy would be withdrawn that was reneged.  The list archives
>>> clearly show that there was – and remains opposition to this policy.  The
>>> rules of the PDP are clear – consensus is not based on what is said at the
>>> floor of the meeting alone, but is derived from the sum total of comments
>>> and objections both on the floor and the lists – and includes any objections
>>> that are sustained and unaddressed.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> While we are happy to engage with the chairs on this issue in the public
>>> forum that is this list – we also see little hope of resolution without
>>> going to the formal appeal committee should the chairs not decide to reverse
>>> their decision, which we believe was taken in error.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We also welcome any other individuals who wish to add their names to this
>>> appeal – and note that individuals wishing to do so, by the appeal process,
>>> are free to join the appeal process irrespective of their comments or lack
>>> of comments on the policy to date – since the appeal surrounds procedural
>>> error – rather than the content of the specific policy itself.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Further emails will follow in due course detailing the objections raised on
>>> the list and the floor of previous meetings that have never been addressed,
>>> and we will clearly demonstrate the error that was made in the consensus
>>> declaration.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Further to this – any of the appellants reserve the right  to continue to
>>> contribute during the last call for the duration of the appeal and may
>>> continue to state their objections during the last call – so that in the
>>> event of this appeal failing – and consensus in last call being declared –
>>> the ground work is laid for a second appeal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Yours Sincerely
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Andrew Alston
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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