[rpd] Softlanding-Bis decision appeal

Fri Dec 1 09:27:28 UTC 2017

Jackson

Like Andrew or loath him - I regard your comments below as an ad hominem attack and unacceptable in the context of the policy development process.

I would urge you to withdraw these remarks and engage on the substance.

I note your very dismissive response to the objections as irrelevant and your refusal to actually engage on the substance. You may consider the objections so trivial as to not warrant a response - however in the absence of real responses, I don’t see how the proposal can be moved into final call.

On the grounds of procedural irregularity alone, I object to this policy. I reserve my right to respond on the substance should the need arise.

Mike

> On 1 Dec 2017, at 11:17, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Your objections as stated before are iffy, out-of context, off-topic
> and irrelevant to the spirit and principle behind soft landing.
> 
> The community will move forward and will not entertain ill intentioned
> and malicious people hijacking a drive to protect a continent's
> resource from pillaging.
> 
> Go back and read the original proposal behind which the global
> redistribution of the last 5 /8s to each individual RIR was  premised,
> and the actual problem statement in Soft Landing BIs which aligns
> exactly with that original policy.
> 
> https://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/135-afpub-2009-v4-001
> 
> 
> /////////////////////////////
> The IANA pool of allocation units of IPv4 addresses (/8s) is
> decreasing rapidly; and to continue applying a global coordinated
> policy for distribution of the last piece(s) of each RIR's unallocated
> address block does not match the reality of the situation in each RIR
> region. Issues each RIR region will face during the exhaustion period
> vary by region as the level of development of IPv4 and IPv6 are widely
> different. As a result, applying a global coordinated policy may
> adequately address issues in a certain region while it could not be
> work for the others.
> 
> For example, in a region where late comers desperately need even small
> blocks of IPv4 addresses to access to the IPv4 Internet, a policy that
> defines the target of allocations/assignments of IPv4 address space to
> the late comers would be appropriate in such region. This would allow
> availability of IPv4 address space for such requirements for more
> years.
> 
> Another example comes from difference in IPv6 deployment rate. For a
> region where IPv6 deployment rate is low, measures may be necessary to
> prolong IPv4 address life for the existing business as well as for new
> businesses until networks are IPv6 ready. Some regions may have strong
> needs to secure IPv4 address space for translators.
> 
> A globally coordinated policy which addresses all issues listed above
> (and/or others) to meet the needs for all RIR regions may result in
> not solving issues in any of the regions. So a new global policy
> proposal , a revised version of policy proposals "AFPUB-2007-v4-001"
> and "AFPUB-2007-v4-002", is proposed to replace the current "on
> demand" policy for allocating of the remaining IPv4 address space to
> RIRs.
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
> 
> 
> You and your so-called friends MUST stop wasting the community's time.
> 
> Africa will move forward irrespective. Neocolonialism is so last century.
> 
> J
> 
> 
> On Fri, Dec 1, 2017 at 9:19 AM, Andrew Alston
> <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Considering the decision to take the soft-landing bis policy into last call
>> yesterday – the following individuals wish to state that we are officially
>> appealing the decision by the co-chairs in this regard:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ben Maddison
>> 
>> Andrew Alston
>> 
>> Mark Elkins
>> 
>> Christopher Mwangi
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Over the last 2 years there have been sustained and unaddressed objections
>> to this policy.  There have been multiple requests by this community to
>> withdraw this policy.  There was a statement by the authors in Mauritius
>> that the policy would be withdrawn that was reneged.  The list archives
>> clearly show that there was – and remains opposition to this policy.  The
>> rules of the PDP are clear – consensus is not based on what is said at the
>> floor of the meeting alone, but is derived from the sum total of comments
>> and objections both on the floor and the lists – and includes any objections
>> that are sustained and unaddressed.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> While we are happy to engage with the chairs on this issue in the public
>> forum that is this list – we also see little hope of resolution without
>> going to the formal appeal committee should the chairs not decide to reverse
>> their decision, which we believe was taken in error.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> We also welcome any other individuals who wish to add their names to this
>> appeal – and note that individuals wishing to do so, by the appeal process,
>> are free to join the appeal process irrespective of their comments or lack
>> of comments on the policy to date – since the appeal surrounds procedural
>> error – rather than the content of the specific policy itself.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Further emails will follow in due course detailing the objections raised on
>> the list and the floor of previous meetings that have never been addressed,
>> and we will clearly demonstrate the error that was made in the consensus
>> declaration.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Further to this – any of the appellants reserve the right  to continue to
>> contribute during the last call for the duration of the appeal and may
>> continue to state their objections during the last call – so that in the
>> event of this appeal failing – and consensus in last call being declared –
>> the ground work is laid for a second appeal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Yours Sincerely
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Alston
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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