[rpd] Version: 5.0 "Internet Number Resources review by AFRINIC"

[Lu Heng]

Hi

I remain firmly opposed to this policy.


The fundamental problem of this policy is not how the evidence is being
present, but the fact that it is taking resources away from its active
members – it seems to* give AFRINIC the rights to do something it doesn’t
have power to*.


If you are making a review policy for more accurate registration, you will
have my full support, as the only way to move forward for AFRINIC is to be
a good bookkeeper. A good bookkeeper needs to document things even it is
politically incorrect.This is a thehard reality.


http://bgp.potaroo.net/ipv4-stats/prefixes_unadv_pool.txt


Today, about 20% of the internet is allocated to companies but not
advertised. Indeed there is a space for internal use. However, I believe
that out of those 20%, at least 90% of them remains idle.


As long as those spaces are occupied legitimately, there is no way on this
planet to take them away from people without starting a war, no government
in history ever did that.


The US government will not come to inform you that because your land from
the West was giving for free 200 years ago, you should give it back to the
government for redistribution. It will NOT tell you that if you don't need
the land anymore, you have to sell it in 3 month.


Even the US government have the most powerful army to back it up, they
don't even dare to do so. Thus, how AFRINIC, being a dozen people
registration service, with one lawyer working as a part-time, is able to do
that to an entire continent's resource holder?


If you ever plan to make a 6.0 and want to pass it, try to take out the
whole part of the recovery process, instead of putting something like not
issuing new allocation to a member in violation of accurate data
registration, and encourage members to register idle space as idle.


*It is an accurate database you want, not a communist way of wealth
redistribution.*




On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 04:07 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

> Arnaud,
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> Let me make this crystal clear on this list –
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> You state:
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> *We have noted your support to a v6.0 with the new 13.3.1 . Same for the
> two others who also opposed v5.0 for the same reason.*
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> Until I state explicitly that I support – do not note my support for
> anything – my support is not something to be derived, and when I support
> this policy, I will state so – until then my stated opposition stands and I
> will go into more detail in a further email.
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> I hope this is clear.
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> Andrew
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> *From:* Arnaud AMELINA [mailto:amelnaud at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 23 November 2017 21:17
> *To:* Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za>
> *Cc:* Afrinic RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [rpd] Version: 5.0 "Internet Number Resources review by
> AFRINIC"
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> Hi Nishal,
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> We acknowledged that this has been raised and discussed. Main concerns
> being addressed were issues of limited resources. The authors have no issue
> with turning the  13.3.1 to the text below:
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> {
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>  13.3.1 Random
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> The member is chosen by AFRINIC at random between  the membership.
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> }
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> We trust Afrinic for making  the right choices with the available
> resources for an efficient review of  usage of allocated  resources.
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> We have noted your support to a v6.0 with the new 13.3.1 . Same for the
> two others who also opposed v5.0 for the same reason.
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> The new version under discussion is the outcome of our works with the
> legal counsel and staff to address all the legal issues raised. We
> encourage the community to read, digest the changes and comment.
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> Regards
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> Arnaud
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> 2017-11-19 10:33 GMT+00:00 Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za>:
>
> On 15 Nov 2017, at 15:41, Sami Salih wrote:
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> Dear AFRINIC PDWG,
>
> A new updated version (Version: 5.0) of the policy proposal
> "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-05" titled "Internet Number Resources review by
> AFRINIC" has been received and published in the policy development portal
> in the following link
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> https://afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-
> proposals/2231-internet-number-resources-review-by-afrinic
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> We shall consider this version on our discussion in the next PDP session.
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>
> sadly the part about treating all members equally seems to be ignored;
> 13.3.1 still doesn’t include all members, and as has been repeatedly
> explained, the smaller members are just as guilty of using resources
> unwisely.
>
> so, still oppose, until it’s made clear (in text) that the same rules
> apply to everyone.
>
> —n.
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