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[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Mike Burns mike at
Wed Jul 12 16:29:15 UTC 2017

Hi Noah,


It is understandable that there is confusion, but yes, to be crystal clear, ARIN does not really care whether the resources are utilized and they will not revoke even if none of them are used at all. I am an ARIN member with an allocation, and I can put it on the shelf forever, unused, so long as I pay my dues.


The language below which is unclear relates to compliance with ARIN policy. But where is not using the addresses a violation of ARIN policy?  






From: Noah [mailto:noah at] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2017 12:22 PM
To: Mike Burns <mike at>
Cc: David Hilario <d.hilario at>; rpd List <rpd at>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"




On Wed, Jul 12, 2017 at 7:08 PM, Mike Burns <mike at <mailto:mike at> > wrote:

Hi Noah,


Section 12 of the ARIN NRPM does not allow for revocation of resources for lack of utilization for original purpose.

Nor does the ARIN RSA enable ARIN to revoke and recover addresses for lack of utilization.



Hi Mike,


So you mean ARIN with allocate and assign resources to an entity and ARIN would not really care whether the resources is utilized and as such they would not revoke it if I am reading you crystal clear.


But then, why does ARIN have the below sections on compliance and what does compliance mean to ARIN. See bold sections.


12. Resource Review

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4.    Organizations found by ARIN to be materially out of compliance with current ARIN policy shall be requested or required to return resources as needed to bring them into (or reasonably close to) compliance.

1.    The degree to which an organization may remain out of compliance shall be based on the reasonable judgment of the ARIN staff and shall balance all facts known, including the organization's utilization rate, available address pool, and other factors as appropriate so as to avoid forcing returns which will result in near-term additional requests or unnecessary route de-aggregation.

2.    To the extent possible, entire blocks should be returned. Partial address blocks shall be returned in such a way that the portion retained will comprise a single aggregate block.


Sorry english is foreign to me, so more clarification for me since compliance to me i believe is related to utilisation.




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