[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

[Lu Heng]

Hi Omo:

Friendly reminder to LIR, and ask them to keep the information up to date,
is not even comparable with threatening to audit a company that you don't
even have jurisdiction of.

Bookkeeper needs to keep information accurate, but not by putting a gun
into their customer's head, if their customer doesn't do what bookkeeper
tell them to do, it's ok, it's their customers' responsibility to bears the
result from different law enforcement who actually have a legal power to
enforce laws.

Moreover, it's a consensus-based policy making, not voting, therefore
addressing argument are what's important here and as far as I see it(not by
making headcount, otherwise, just like some of fake accounts here, we can
simply say the one with most gmail accounts wins) none of the raised
argument has been properly addressed yet, and to the current reality of
AFRINIC being a dozens people company without any government backing, I see
no way those concerns can be possibly addressed.

With regards.

Lu



On 11 July 2017 at 10:27, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> wrote:

> Owen,
>
> The final legal feedback notwithstanding (which I am sure the authors will
> respond to), I only see negative feedback from a handful of people.  The
> fact that this is voiced repeatedly does not in any way increase the volume.
>
> It is your misinterpretation that is more likely to be confusing to the
> community.  Resource review is essential activity for Internet registries
> even if they are only bookkeepers like some would have them be.
>
> AFRINIC would be failing in its accountability to the community without a
> policy like this.   Please let the Co-Chairs do their job
>
> Omo
>
> On 10 July 2017 at 23:18, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
>
>> Sami,
>>
>> The final legal feedback notwithstanding, I think there has been more
>> than enough negative feedback in this last call to make it quite clear that
>> this policy does NOT have consensus at this time and I urge the co-chairs
>> to remand it to the authors and the list for further refinement or
>> abandonment rather than leaving it in last call status. There is no reason
>> for last call to be maintained beyond the point where clearly the policy
>> has no consensus as is and will need substantial revision. It only confuses
>> the community.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> > On Jul 10, 2017, at 12:55 , SamiSalih <sami at ntc.gov.sd> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Dear Andrew and Community,
>> >
>> > As section (3.4.3) of the CPM stated the last call can't be less than
>> two week, however the document didn't specify exact period for last call to
>> be concluded.
>> >
>> > Please refer to the last Call section in the following link
>> > http://www.afrinic.net/library/policies/1829-afrinic-consoli
>> dated-policy-manual#PolicyDevelopmentProcess
>> >
>> > The Co-chair are evaluating feedbacks specially those related to the
>> legal issues in the policy and as you know we just received the final
>> assessment of the legal advisor today.
>> >
>> > Best Regards,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dr. Sami Salih  | Assistant Professor
>> > Sudan University of Science and Technology
>> > Eastern Dum, P.O Box 11111-407
>> > email: sami.salih at sustech.edu
>> > Mob: +249122045707
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
>> >> To: rpd at afrinic.net
>> >> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2017 9:53:22 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 -
>> Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"
>> >>
>> >> By the way, as a question to the RPD co-chairs.
>> >>
>> >> Standard process is that last call is a 2 week period.  By my count,
>> last
>> >> call has now been open longer than that on this policy - can we get can
>> >> indication from the co-chairs as to when consensus or lack thereof
>> will be
>> >> declared for this last call period please.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> Andrew
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Ashok Radhakissoon [mailto:ashok at afrinic.net]
>> >> Sent: 10 July 2017 14:07
>> >> To: rpd at afrinic.net
>> >> Subject: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet
>> Number
>> >> Resources Review by AFRINIC"
>> >>
>> >> Dear All,
>> >> Find for your consideration my final assessment of the proposed policy
>> under
>> >> reference.
>> >> Regards
>> >> Ashok.B.Radhakissoon
>> >> Legal Adviser
>> >> AFRINIC
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Kind regards.
Lu
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