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[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Derrick Harrison derrick.harrison at
Tue Jun 27 10:35:37 UTC 2017

I also oppose this policy.

On 27 Jun 2017 12:10 PM, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at>

I to oppose this policy, for all the reasons that have been stated on this
list, all the reasons I have stated on the floor, all the reasons the legal
advisor raised and others that do not need to be reiterated.

There is no conceivable way that I see a policy like this being in the best
interests of AfriNIC or the majority of its membership base – and
especially (but not limited to) putting the organisation at significant
risk of direct litigation with its members.

Opposed this policy on day one – oppose it today – will oppose it tomorrow
– it is bad for the organisation.


*From:* Bastein Li [mailto:bastienlee at]
*Sent:* 27 June 2017 12:58
*To:* rpd <rpd at>
*Subject:* Re: [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet
Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Apologies to all.
I realized that I forgot to introduce myself.

This is Bastien Li, I am the Assistant director at China telecom (Kenya)

I just attended the last AFRINIC in Nairobi and thanks to this meeting
I started following the policy development and mailing list
discussions taking place here at AFRINIC.

I have worked in the African continent for the past 3 years, I love to see
Telecom industry could be developing well on this continent.

Bastien LI


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*From: * "Bastein Li";<bastienlee at>;

*Date: * Tue, Jun 27, 2017 05:14 PM

*To: * "rpd"<rpd at>;

*Subject: * [rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet
Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Dearest members of the community,

The Staff assessment raises so many questions and remarks that would
require a re-write of the proposal rather than a brief explanation.

I would like to state my opposition to this proposal,My main opposition
point is the de-registration of resources, directly leading to the
potential legal actions and claims against the AFRINIC secretariat.

No policy should be passed that are raising such legal concerns described
in the Staff assessment:

Legal claims could be very expensive and may prove to be too great for
AFRINIC to pay off.Putting the very existence of an RIR at risk is not what
the community should be doing, the Secretariat is created in order to serve
the community, the members are there to finance the Secretariat so that it
can continue to serve the community.

We need to have reviews, the secretariat needs to be in touch with all the
members regularly in other manners than just sending an invoice. But not
with the intention to reclaim allocations they deem could be"better used".
If an LIR is found to be in breach of policies, AFRINIC will assist in
fixing the situation, not threaten. De-registring resources will be
affecting the LIRs business operations, which is why there will be legal
actions against the one responsible for disrupting the network.

How did we reach a point where the members, the secretariat and sections of
the community are on contradicting terms on how to continue the
distribution of Internet resources. As such I would like to stress to the
authors and the to the co-chairs to take all the comments and opposition
under considerations, this policy as such would be detrimental to the
continuation of AFRINIC secretariat.



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