[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

[Omo Oaiya]

Lu,

I am uncomfortable with the increased Chinese presence on this matter Lu.   It seems to me that “substantial opposition” is being drummed up so this does not pass.

I am also uncomfortable with the repeated legal threats which in my opinion have no basis if the fundamental contract that governs the relationship with members is violated.   Like I said,  we wait for legal and I’d be inclined to ask for a second opinion if what is clearly a straightforward matter is couched in a manner to frighten the community.

I am also uncomfortable with you speaking for Kris.  As far as I know, he could not have been "responsible for the budget calculation".  He was a board member not in the executive.  Perhaps he can speak up for himself and tell us how he does the budget for AfriNIC.

You say AfriNIC is a book keeper.   At least we agree that their responsibility is to keep the books and audit is a necessary part of this.  Is Lu Heng a lawyer?  I tire for the implied threats.

My 0.02.


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> On 27 Jun 2017, at 13:01, Lu Heng <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:
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> Hi Omo:
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> On 27 June 2017 at 19:35, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net <mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net>> wrote:
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> On 27 June 2017 at 11:56, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at gmail.com <mailto:seeburn.k at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I still stand opposed to the policy. People just call it an Andrew or liquid audit policy or a cloud innovations policy audit. Let’s not hide and get off with it.
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> Kris
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> Are these people suggesting these organisations have something to hide?
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> I don't see how this policy can be an issue for any member who has not violated the rules or abused contractual agreements with AfrINIC
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> 1. Because audit cost money and man power, audit an large organization like  national telecom require multiple times of AFRINIC budget, it is beyond what AFRINIC can afford, Kris is the one responsible for the budget calculation and he as already clearly states that.
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> 2. Not fairly audit all members is direct violation of ICP-2, selective and subjective will results abuse of monopoly power lawsuit at first guidance.
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> 3. Audit require sensitive business information in which no business would like to share,  moreover it is illegal to share in most cases, for example what if afrinic require member provide all customer data to justify utilization? It is in direct violation of privacy law in many countries.
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> Let's be a bit more accountable here.   Responsible stewardship requires being able to audit and I understand that revocation is a last resort.  I support the policy on this basis.
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> The ultimate question is, CAN AFRINIC afford revocation? yes, if you revoke a /22, the member may be too small to finding problem with you, but if you revoke a /12? Any company with a /12 have power to sue AFRINIC to broke. not mentioning the business damage and lost of the connections for the end user and business users, the address range alone worth 10-15 million dollars in which effectively is 2 years of income for AFRINIC.
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> Let's get into real world which has laws and high court in which ultimate have the real reenforce power with police and military to back what they are doing, AFRINIC has none, while you still ask AFRINIC to direct confront all it's members at 100 times its size, I just don't see that as realistic.
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> AFRINIC is a book keeper, if you ask it to be police, then give it's the REAL power needed to be one, for example, pass a resolution at AFRICAN union.
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> More importantly, the policy is in last call and the authors have responded to legal's message through the Co-chairs.  I look forward to the Co-chairs feedback on that matter.
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> Any policy at last call receive substantial opposition go back to discussion phase for future discussion, in the last call does not means people can not push the policy back if they disagree it with rightful argument.
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> Best wishes
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