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[rpd] Last Call for "AFPUB-2016-GEN-001-DRAFT-04 - Internet Number Resources Review by AFRINIC"

Lu Heng at
Tue Jun 27 12:01:18 UTC 2017

Hi Omo:

On 27 June 2017 at 19:35, Omo Oaiya <Omo.Oaiya at> wrote:

> On 27 June 2017 at 11:56, Kris Seeburn <seeburn.k at> wrote:
>> I still stand opposed to the policy. People just call it an Andrew or
>> liquid audit policy or a cloud innovations policy audit. Let’s not hide and
>> get off with it.
>> Kris
> Are these people suggesting these organisations have something to hide?
> I don't see how this policy can be an issue for any member who has not
> violated the rules or abused contractual agreements with AfrINIC

1. Because audit cost money and man power, audit an large organization like
 national telecom require multiple times of AFRINIC budget, it is beyond
what AFRINIC can afford, Kris is the one responsible for the budget
calculation and he as already clearly states that.

2. Not fairly audit all members is direct violation of ICP-2, selective and
subjective will results abuse of monopoly power lawsuit at first guidance.

3. Audit require sensitive business information in which no business would
like to share,  moreover it is illegal to share in most cases, for example
what if afrinic require member provide all customer data to justify
utilization? It is in direct violation of privacy law in many countries.

> Let's be a bit more accountable here.   Responsible stewardship requires
> being able to audit and I understand that revocation is a last resort.  I
> support the policy on this basis.

The ultimate question is, CAN AFRINIC afford revocation? yes, if you revoke
a /22, the member may be too small to finding problem with you, but if you
revoke a /12? Any company with a /12 have power to sue AFRINIC to broke.
not mentioning the business damage and lost of the connections for the end
user and business users, the address range alone worth 10-15 million
dollars in which effectively is 2 years of income for AFRINIC.

Let's get into real world which has laws and high court in which ultimate
have the real reenforce power with police and military to back what they
are doing, AFRINIC has none, while you still ask AFRINIC to direct confront
all it's members at 100 times its size, I just don't see that as realistic.

AFRINIC is a book keeper, if you ask it to be police, then give it's the
REAL power needed to be one, for example, pass a resolution at AFRICAN

> More importantly, the policy is in last call and the authors have
> responded to legal's message through the Co-chairs.  I look forward to the
> Co-chairs feedback on that matter.

Any policy at last call receive substantial opposition go back to
discussion phase for future discussion, in the last call does not means
people can not push the policy back if they disagree it with rightful

> Best wishes
> --
> Omo Oaiya
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Kind regards.
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