[rpd] AFRINIC Policy Development Process Bis Proposal: the way forward

[Walubengo J]

Spot on @McTim,
I may add that IF the co-chairs do not know how, or do not have capacity to reach consensus within them,  how will they then claim to 'know' community had reached consensus :-)
walu.

      From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
 To: Mark J Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> 
Cc: AfriNIC Resource Policy Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>
 Sent: Monday, June 19, 2017 3:06 PM
 Subject: Re: [rpd] AFRINIC Policy Development Process Bis Proposal: the way forward
   
in my experience as a PDWG co-chair, we never had a situation where
the co-chairs did not agree on if a policy proposal had gained
consensus or not.

I do not support this proposal, I feel it weakens our PDP and as a
result our community.

Regards,

McTim

On Mon, Jun 19, 2017 at 5:51 AM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
> 1 - So does that mean you are dropping the Chair/vice-Chair and retaining
> the current two Co-Chairs - like a number of people asked you to do, or
> what?
>
> 2 - What do the words "working group" mean? Do you mean "AfriNIC Community"?
> If so - please use that more familiar terminology.
>
> 3 - Can you please tell the community when last where the two co-chairs so
> stuck in making a decision - that effectively - that was their decision. i.e
> - the never made a decision? To the best of my understanding and knowledge,
> this has never happened but I may be wrong.
>
> I was going to add a fourth point but I think what you are really trying to
> do is get some discussion going?
>
>
> On 19/06/2017 11:30, Ornella GANKPA wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> Initiators  of the new pdp-bis proposal AFPUB-2017-GEN-002-DRAFT-01
> [1],  in an effort to improve the policy, are willing to hear from the
> working group, about settling the matter around one chair and a
> vice-chair  compared to the current model of 2 cochairs .
>
> In the current situation, chairs with the same level of responsabilities
> can get stuck when making decision towards a policy proposal thus
> hindering its progress. Working group discussion moderation by two
> independent individuals can be  inefficient. This lack of "consensus"
> between co-chairs freezes the working group operations as well as the
> policy development process
>
> Our proposal aims to settle those issues with one chair who makes the
> final decision and  a vice chair.
>
> Community might be concerned about giving one single Chair, too much
> power. The balance with that is found in stricking deeply the appeal
> process to make it as larger as possible and open to anybody at any step
> of a policy proposal's life.
>
> During AIS17 in Nairobi, initiators have gathered positive comments from
> the floor, some supporting linguistic diversity between Chairs. We're
> willing to pursue the debate and bring some new air to the proposal.
>
> Thanks all beforehand for your comments.
>
> Regards
>
> [1]
> https://afrinic.net/fr/community/policy-development/policy-proposals/2083-afrinic-policy-development-process-bis
>
>
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McTim
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