[rpd] [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy discussed at RIPE

[Noah]

Andrew,

Those past midnight discussions dont change the facts. We shalll have more
of those in the planned event organised by AFRINIC ref:Intenet Shutdowns.

But fact remains that, AFRINIC's core missions is to promote internet
development by allocating  number resources and maintaining the database.

Noah

On 10 May 2017 12:34 p.m., "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:

> Noah,
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> A line at the microphone is one thing – discussions that have been going
> on till 3am every morning since then with everyone else on the floor who
> wasn’t at the microphone – are another entirely ☺
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> Andrew
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> *From: *Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>
> *Date: *Wednesday, 10 May 2017 at 11:01
> *To: *Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
> *Cc: *General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>, rpd
> List <rpd at afrinic.net>, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy
> discussed at RIPE
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> Mmmm on the contrary seems like most folk on the floor disagreed with the
> contraversial policy and its approach no matter how much the Arthors seek
> for better ways to improve it.
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> Some suggested multistake holder engagement and in particular Leslie
> Daigle comments on the floor are worth taking into serious considerations
> by the way.
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> The best comment in my opinion was from the Alan Durand who reminded
> everyone what the real core mission of the RIR community is,  and that
> is....
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> "To allocate resources and maintain the accuracy of the database".PERIOD.
> [1]
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> Noah
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> [1]I have had in the past folk state statements like "How some ome runs
> his network is none of anyones business and in that matter policing the
> network is none of AFRINICs business"
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> On 10 May 2017 10:39 a.m., "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.
> com> wrote:
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> Thanks Marcus,
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> Just some feedback for the community.
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> It's been a great experience here at RIPE and some of the ideas given and
> the extensive discussions following the presentation referred to by Marcus
> have been both useful and informative.
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> Draft 2 will be submitted shortly very much in line with what I presented
> in that presentation - and before the 7 day deadline as per the PDP so we
> can discuss on that basis.
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> Following the meeting in Nairobi, I suspect we will then be gathering
> still further input and further drafts will follow, if there is no
> consensus found on the floor for the draft 2 that will be submitted.
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> I think for myself, the most important thing I have seen at RIPE so far,
> is the huge willingness by people from every walk of life to engage in
> dialog and discussion over this, and it was heartening to see both my own
> positions and the positions of those I was discussing with shift as
> explanations were given and questions were asked and answered.  Since
> giving that presentation I have barely had a minute to think as people
> approached me to talk this through - and I really hope to see such
> engagement in Nairobi, because it truly showed the benefit of a multi
> stakeholder approach where open dialog and communication can happen, even
> in the absence of agreement and in the face of controversial material where
> people hold strong and emotive views.
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> I look forward to the discussions on the floor of the PDP and engaging
> with all of you to hear your thoughts and views and finding the right
> solution to the issue.
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> Thanks
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> Andrew
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> *From:* Marcus K. G. Adomey <madomey at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 9, 2017 11:48:42 PM
> *To:* rpd at afrinic.net; community-discuss at afrinic.net
> *Subject:* [Community-Discuss] Controversial anti-shutdown policy
> discussed at RIPE
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> Dear Colleagues.
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> You might want to see the presentation of the controversial draft
> anti-shutdown policy (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01) at a recent RIPE
> meeting.  I found the questions/comments from the RIPE community similar to
> that shared by many on the RPD, mostly about the inappropriateness of such
> policy in our region… or any other for that matter.  Enjoy watching it.
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> https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/
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> <https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/>
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> Archives – RIPE 74 <https://ripe74.ripe.net/archives/video/41/>
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> ripe74.ripe.net
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> Thanks
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> Marcus
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