[rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

[Badru Ntege]

Andrew

We are talking about politically sensitive issues which cannot be handled openly on mailing lists.  At the end of the day members have to exist in the same communities. 

So I suppose local ISOC members decided not to commmnet on the issue and it's best we leave it that way. 

Regards

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> On 14 Apr 2017, at 15:52, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Willie,
> 
> I fully understand that the views in that statement are probably not representative of the members of the ISOC Cameroon chapter, and that the views within the chapter may differ, hence I have no quarrel with any individual member of the chapter.  That being said however, as I have said to you in other emails off list - while the Cameroon ISOC chapter lets that statement stand without explicitly refuting it and stating that the position was NOT that of the chapter, a statement made by the president of the chapter, and signed as such, that makes no indication that it was written in personal capacity must stand as the official position of the chapter as an entity.
> 
> My concern is that I have yet to see the chapter come out and explicitly withdraw or contradict that statement - and therefore - it's pretty hard to judge the situation - but if ISOC Cameroon as an entity does dispute that statement - let us see an official withdrawal of the statement that states the statement is not reflective of the view of the entity - that is my challenge to you.
> 
> Rest assured - as I have said - I have no fight with any individual member of ISOC Cameroon - but I do right now have an issue with the fact that that statement has been left to stand - and I also commend the central ISOC body in coming out refuting the statement from their side - but right now - in my opinion - ISOC Cameroon needs to make its position clear, either through a second statement that withdraws and contradicts the first one, or a statement that stands by it.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Willy MANGA [mailto:willy.manga at isoc-cameroon.org] 
> Sent: 14 April 2017 14:39
> To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>; Kyle Spencer <kyle at stormzero.com>; Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za>
> Cc: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"
> 
> Hi Andrew
> 
>> Le 13/04/2017 à 08:57, Andrew Alston a écrit :
>> Hi All,
>> 
>> [...]
>> Indeed - ISOC Cameroon came out with a statement in support of the  
>> shutdowns - in direct contrast to the condemnation of such by ISOC  
>> themselves.  If I'm correct, we're now 80+ days in, and still we see  
>> the targeting of a community through a shutdown.[...]
> 
> The statement I suppose you are talking of was not from the whole ISOC Cameroon Chapter even though it was issued by one member please...
> 
> 
> --
> Willy Manga
> @ongolaboy
> Secrétaire général ISOC chapitre Cameroun Internet Society Member ID: 129677 www.internetsociety.cm
> 
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