[rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

[David Hilario]

English:
There has sadly been many separate threads outside of the scope of the proposal.

A lot of eyes are on the AFRINIC community now, lets show the world
that this community is not about fighting policy authors, but about
fighting for ideas and common goals.

Only the content and intent of the policy proposal should be
discussed, it is great that AFRINIC is the first RIR to now have an
open discussions on these very sensitive topic.

>From the proposal itself, the part that I would like to see more
debated is the "revoking" of the resources, if "revoking" implies
de-registering the resources issued to an LIR, this is very severe, as
it would basically revoke entire organisations from the Internet.

In the case of Egypt, it would mean that Egypt telecom which according
to various sources online is owned at 80% by the Egyptian government
would see its resources de-registered, leaving millions of private
citizens without proper IP addressing schemes and off course
hospitals, schools and companies etc...

Once the "ban" on service gets lifted by AFRINIC after 5 years,
nothing assures that AFRINIC would even be able to issue those
resources back to the LIRs, as it may not even be possible under the
policies to restore these resources.

I don't believe that such consequences raining down on the users is
justified and would even be counterproductive.


Francais:
Malheureusement, il y a eu beaucoup de discussion en dehors du champ
de la proposition.

Beaucoup d'yeux sont en ce moment sur la communauté AFRINIC, montrons
au monde que cette communauté ne combats pas les auteurs de policys,
mais combats pour des idées et des objectifs communs.

Seul le contenu et l'intention de la proposition de la policy
devraient être discutés, il est formidable que AFRINIC soit le premier
RIR à avoir maintenant une discussion ouverte sur ce sujet très
sensible.

Pour la proposition elle-même, la partie que j'aimerais voir plus
débattue est la «revoke» des ressources, si la «révocation» implique
le désenregistrement des ressources pourvue à un LIR, c'est très
grave, et cela révoquerait tout accès a Internet pour ces
organisations.

Dans le cas de l'Égypte, cela signifierait que Egypte Telecom qui,
selon diverses sources en ligne, appartient a  80% au gouvernement
égyptien verront leurs ressources désenregistrer, laissant des
millions de citoyens privés sans addresses IP et aussie des hôpitaux,
écoles, entreprises etc ...

Une fois que le «blocage» sur les services est levée par AFRINIC après
5 ans, rien ne garantit que AFRINIC pourrait même restaurer ces
ressources aux LIR, car il ne seras peut être même pas possible, dans
le cadre des policy, de restaurer ces ressources.

Je ne crois pas que de telles conséquences pour les utilisateurs sont
justifiées et seraient même contre-productives.


David Hilario

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On 13 April 2017 at 17:35, Andrew Alston
<Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
> Just for the sake of clarity.
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> The authors had no contact with theregister before that article went live –
> and we note certain factual inaccuracies in what was published and will
> reach out to get them corrected.
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> That being said – at the request of other media organisations – the authors
> have chosen to give their perspectives.  So far one such article has
> actually been published and can be found here:
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> https://qz.com/957821/a-proposal-to-africas-internet-registry-afrinic-aims-to-deny-governments-ip-addresses-for-shutting-down-the-internet/
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> Thanks
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> From: Badru Ntege [mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com]
> Sent: 13 April 2017 17:21
> To: Arsène Tungali <arsenebaguma at gmail.com>; Bope Domilongo Christian
> <christianbope at gmail.com>
> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>; rpd
> <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown
> (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"
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> Arsene
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> The community should be wary not to be played.
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> On 4/13/17, 3:59 PM, "Arsène Tungali" <arsenebaguma at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Just read the article on theregistry.co.uk, a UK mainstream media, while no
> African newspaper thought of publishing it (or are they even aware of the
> ongoing discussion?) I simply love it and the way they put it. Anyone who is
> not familiar with this process will think it is something the AFRINIC Board
> is working on, rather than a simple proposal put forward by three community
> members (even if authors were mentioned as well).
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> Not wanting to point any connections is this not the same media house that
> published a private email to discredit a member of the community not long
> ago. ??
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> And again this is the same media house that has historically published
> information about AfriNIC where a certain member of the community is
> involved…..just saying
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> In my opinion, authors of this article made it sound like a warning to
> African governments, that Afrinic is working on a policy that will punish
> them if they dare shutting down the Internet; which is beautiful! I am sure
> if some governments read it, their impression (or trust) on afrinic will
> start to be altered (as many people have pointed out on this list).
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> This surely is something for the governance committee to look into.
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> A touch of “Tilapia” arround this whole policy proposal.
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