[rpd] New Policy Proposal - "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)"

Wed Apr 12 19:24:55 UTC 2017

AfriNIC acting as Internet police?

Let's be realistic and, most importantly, humble.

AfriNIC issuing a statement on the discussed issue is one thing; trying to
"punish" governments and all suspected accomplices is a completely
different game.

Boubakar

On Wed, Apr 12, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:

> Not really. The Policy is intended to affect the
> people/departments/decision makers that are actually causing a shutdown to
> happen.
> i.e. - not Universities, Hospitals, Businesses or Joe Public.
>
> If the Government were also to suddenly change (Arab Spring style) then
> the ban would also presumably be immediately lifted.
> After all - what is the point of AFRINIC (whose fundamental role is to
> promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa) servicing governments
> who don't allow the people to have Internet service, or who keep switching
> it off.
>
> ps. Can someone point me to an article or two that explains the reason
> *why* the anglophones have been denied Internet in the Cameroon.
>
>
> On 12/04/2017 20:09, Honest Ornella GANKPA wrote:
>
> +1 Maya
>
> So in order to stop internet shutdowns by governments, AFRINIC (whose
> fundamental role is to promote Internet growth and penetration in Africa),
> will now further punish the same community it serves by shutting down ISP's
> and alienating the target governments?
>
> How does that work? (genuine question)
>
>
>
> Honest Ornella GANKPA
>
>
>
> 2017-04-12 9:46 GMT+01:00 Maye Diop <mayediop at gmail.com>:
>
>> Dear All,
>> We all accept that this is a big issue and Even if AfGWG does not have
>> any interference with policy, I would like to remind tthat one Objective
>> of the Working Group is To strengthen the collaboration between AFRINIC
>> and African Governments and Regulators to promote sustainable and secure
>> Internet development in Africa.
>> Putting in place a discriminatory policy for Government and privating a
>> country of ressources will  neither help to involve more government on
>> AFRINIC activities to help them to better understand nor bring any change
>> if they decided to take decisions to shutdown Internet.
>> I'll vote for a dedicated high worklevel shop to raise this issue at
>> regional level.
>> Best Regards
>>
>> 2017-04-12 5:28 GMT+00:00 Vymala <vymala at afrinic.net>:
>>
>>> Hello Barrack
>>>
>>> , i would be keen to understand whether the same has gone through the
>>> AFRINIC  Government working group as Seun has indicated and their views on
>>> the same,
>>>
>>> As you know the Community draft Proposals and Policies and AFRINIC does
>>> not interfere in any case in the process.
>>> In this case the  "Anti-Shutdown (AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01)” is
>>> addressing Internet Shutdown and concerns Governments.
>>>
>>> There is no policy or proposal that needs to be validated by the AFRINIC
>>> Government Working Group as the AfGWG is a closed and dedicated
>>> forum for Governments, Regulators and LEA’s to discuss on opportunities
>>> and challenges they are facing with regards to the Internet Development in
>>> Africa amongst other.
>>>
>>> I hope this clear your question.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> vymala
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12 Apr 2017, at 6:55 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi colleagues,
>>>
>>> Interesting proposal, given the role of governments in our eco-system ,
>>> i would be keen to understand whether the same has gone through the
>>> AFRINIC  Government working group as Seun has indicated and their views on
>>> the same, i think we should endeavour to keep the Internet on at all costs,
>>> any punitive measure that can result in switching off the Internet or
>>> denying users access in any part of the world is not ideal in my humble
>>> opinion.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> On Apr 12, 2017 1:52 AM, "Keshwarsingh Nadan" <kn at millenium.net.mu>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Moonesawmy
>>>>
>>>> >In Section 1 of AFPUB-2017-GEN-001-DRAFT-01, it is stated that "these
>>>> >shutdowns have been shown to cause economic damage".  Could you
>>>> >please provide some data about the economic damage?
>>>>
>>>> I confine myself within bounds better suited to my own capacity,
>>>> perhaps this could help?
>>>>
>>>> https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/intenet
>>>> -shutdowns-v-3.pdf
>>>>
>>>> >What is the meaning of "direct provable relationships" in Section 13.1?
>>>>
>>>> It is my belief that you should unsubscribe from this list since you
>>>> were unable to understand the basic meaning of whatever you quoted above.
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