[rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue

[Andrew Alston]

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100% agreed with the below sentiments McTim

Andrew


-----Original Message-----
From: McTim [mailto:dogwallah at gmail.com] 
Sent: 30 March 2017 01:01
To: SamiSalih <sami at ntc.gov.sd>
Cc: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue

Sami, all,

I just want to remind everyone that "no consensus, status quo remains"
is a perfectly valid outcome of the PDP.

Not every policy proposal needs to pass in some form or other.  That a proposal fails to gain consensus is not an indictment of the PDP, rather a validation of the PDP.

Regards,

McTim








On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 1:02 PM, SamiSalih <sami at ntc.gov.sd> wrote:
> Dear Marcus,
>
> First of all YES we really sure what we are trying to organize !
> Second, Mark Elkins is on of the co-authors of many other proposals - 
> as he claimed -, the one you particularly mention is not an active 
> proposal for the time being Third, as we stated we welcome any 
> volunteer to contribute to solve the issues we addressed in our 
> justifications to our call,
>
> Please help us to focus only on ideas and proposals.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Dr. Sami Salih  | Assistant Professor
> Sudan University of Science and Technology Eastern Dum, P.O Box 
> 11111-407
> email: sami.salih at sustech.edu
> Mob: +249122045707
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com>
> To: "SamiSalih" <sami at ntc.gov.sd>, "rpd" <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 29, 2017 7:19:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Report of the Soft Landing isuue
>
>
>
> Dear Co-chairs,
>
>
>
> While reading your email, I am wondering whether you are really sure 
> of what you are trying to organize. Have you considered the following points?
>
>
> 1 - Mark Elkins is one of the co-authors of the softlanding overhaul
>
> 2- The co-authors of the softlanding-bis proposal which is still in 
> the PDWG track  said  ".... we are available for any further actions 
> required from us" in their response to your  7 days call.
>
>
> Some thoughts for reflection!!!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: SamiSalih <sami at ntc.gov.sd>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 7:03:11 AM
> To: rpd
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue
>
> Dear PDWG,
>
> We appreciate your active discussion regarding the soft landing policy.
>
> This is to declare the end of the Seven Days comment period on 
> developing a common proposal according to the points commonly agreed 
> before whether in the RPD or at PPMs.
>
> So far we have Mark Elkins and Arsène Tungali as the only volunteers. 
> We hope they can edit the commonly agreed view in a new policy update 
> proposal document and work with other community members including 
> authors of previous proposals that wish to lend their experience.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> PDWG Co-Chairs
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: "Honest Ornella GANKPA" <honest1989 at gmail.com>
> To: "Dewole Ajao" <dewole at forum.org.ng>
> Cc: "rpd" <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 27, 2017 4:49:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Report of the Soft Landing isuue
>
> Hello Dewole
>
> It has been suggested to take the points which have consensus on the 
> wide variety and get an editor to come up with a new version  if we 
> really do not want the current authors to do it.
>
> Best regards
>
> Honest Ornella GANKPA
>
>
>
>
> 2017-03-27 8:52 GMT+01:00 Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng>:
>>
>> The proposal "already in the PDP" (as you put it) deals with a wide 
>> variety of areas. That collection of areas has not found consensus. 
>> If the authors choose to whittle the proposal down to those areas 
>> that the community largely agrees on, the co-chairs would not need to 
>> point out areas that volunteers can adopt and put forward.
>>
>> Although proposals (once submitted to the RPD list) are supposed to 
>> be owned by the community and not the authors, the current 
>> definition/implementation of the AFRINIC PDP does not promote that 
>> enough. I stand to be corrected but I think that is why we find 
>> ourselves in this logjam today.
>>
>> The submission presented by co-chairs a week ago was to allow a 
>> chance to do things the collaborative way. A chance to disconnect 
>> from whatever sentiments exist and tackle policy issues (which is why we are here).
>>
>> I fail to see what makes you think the co-chairs are focusing on 
>> authors rather than policy.
>>
>> Dewole.
>>
>> Sent from a mobile device. Please excuse typos and autocorrect 
>> strangeness.
>>
>> On 26 Mar 2017, at 8:52 PM, Honest Ornella GANKPA 
>> <honest1989 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Dewole,
>>
>> 2017-03-26 18:37 GMT+01:00 Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng>:
>>>
>>> There is more to benefit from collaborating on a single draft rather 
>>> than spewing out multiple proposals.
>>
>> Agreed! So why are you asking for new proposals when there is already 
>> one in PDP.  Co-chairs need to focus on policy not authors.
>>
>>
>>  Honest Ornella GANKPA
>>
>
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Cheers,

McTim
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