[rpd] Inbound Policy

[Andrew Alston]

RIPE has already stated clearly at the meeting that they will allow such transfers, it's on the video transcript

Andrew


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From: Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmuthi at gmail.com] 
Sent: 12 January 2017 09:15
To: Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
Cc: rpd Discussion List <rpd at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Inbound Policy

Can ARIN, RIPE, APNIC provide formal clear statement to AfriNIC community on this?

Can 1 way transfer be possible from your registry to AfriNIC after passing of this policy? If not the conversation is waste of community time.

On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> As I understand it, ARIN allows transfers to APNIC because APNIC has a compatible reciprocal policy.
>
> ARIN does not, to my knowledge, allow transfers between ARIN and VNNIC or CNNIC.
>
> While it may be true that resources can be transferred ARIN->APNIC->{VNNIC,CNNIC}, I’ll note that there’s really little ARIN can do to with regards to policies about how APNIC interacts with other registries or subregistries. That is a matter for the APNIC policy community.
>
> Transfers are possible in both directions between ARIN and APNIC as well as between ARIN and RIPE.
>
> Owen
>
>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 03:17 , fransossen at yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 1:01 PM, Hytham El-Nakhal <hytham at tra.gov.eg> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I'd like to ask authors to, in addition to the staff and legal 
>>> assessment & comments on the policy proposal, address the comments 
>>> of other RIRs at the end of the policy proposal page:> 
>>> http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-propos
>>> als/1803-inbound-transfer-policy under the header of "Tentative 
>>> Assessment from other RIRs".
>>
>> I am really curious for the reasoning behind the other RIR's statement that they would not be able to do a transfer to AFRINIC without reciprocity.
>>
>>    * Tentative Assessment from other RIRs is indicative of the following:
>>        * ARIN - cannot implement - need reciprocal
>>        * RIPE - may (or may not) implement - yet to advise on details and requirements.
>>        * LACNIC - Not applicable as no Inter RIR transfer policy
>>
>>        * APNIC - cannot implement - need reciprocity.
>>
>> APNIC is partially in that very same situation with some of their NIRs not allowing transfers out of their registry:
>> https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/n
>> ir-ipv4-transfer
>>
>> NIR       Incoming    Outgoing        Pre-Approval
>> VNNIC   Yes           No       By request
>> CNNIC   Yes           No       By request
>>
>>
>> I find it a very strange statement from APNIC and ARIN to say they would not allow one way transfer to AFRINIC when they allow transfers at the moment to one way sub-registries within APNIC region.
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> David Hilario
>>
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