<html><body>RIPE has already stated clearly at the meeting that they will allow such transfers, it's on the video transcript<BR>
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Andrew<BR>
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From: Jackson Muthili [mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com] <BR>
Sent: 12 January 2017 09:15<BR>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com><BR>
Cc: rpd Discussion List <rpd@afrinic.net><BR>
Subject: Re: [rpd] Inbound Policy<BR>
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Can ARIN, RIPE, APNIC provide formal clear statement to AfriNIC community on this?<BR>
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Can 1 way transfer be possible from your registry to AfriNIC after passing of this policy? If not the conversation is waste of community time.<BR>
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On Wed, Jan 11, 2017 at 11:32 PM, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:<BR>
> As I understand it, ARIN allows transfers to APNIC because APNIC has a compatible reciprocal policy.<BR>
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> ARIN does not, to my knowledge, allow transfers between ARIN and VNNIC or CNNIC.<BR>
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> While it may be true that resources can be transferred ARIN->APNIC->{VNNIC,CNNIC}, I’ll note that there’s really little ARIN can do to with regards to policies about how APNIC interacts with other registries or subregistries. That is a matter for the APNIC policy community.<BR>
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> Transfers are possible in both directions between ARIN and APNIC as well as between ARIN and RIPE.<BR>
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> Owen<BR>
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>> On Jan 11, 2017, at 03:17 , <a href="mailto:fransossen@yahoo.com">fransossen@yahoo.com</a> wrote:<BR>
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>> Hi All,<BR>
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>> On Saturday, December 31, 2016 1:01 PM, Hytham El-Nakhal <hytham@tra.gov.eg> wrote:<BR>
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>>> I'd like to ask authors to, in addition to the staff and legal <BR>
>>> assessment & comments on the policy proposal, address the comments <BR>
>>> of other RIRs at the end of the policy proposal page:> <BR>
>>> <a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-propos" target="_blank">http://www.afrinic.net/en/community/policy-development/policy-propos</a><BR>
>>> als/1803-inbound-transfer-policy under the header of "Tentative <BR>
>>> Assessment from other RIRs".<BR>
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>> I am really curious for the reasoning behind the other RIR's statement that they would not be able to do a transfer to AFRINIC without reciprocity.<BR>
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>> * Tentative Assessment from other RIRs is indicative of the following:<BR>
>> * ARIN - cannot implement - need reciprocal<BR>
>> * RIPE - may (or may not) implement - yet to advise on details and requirements.<BR>
>> * LACNIC - Not applicable as no Inter RIR transfer policy<BR>
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>> * APNIC - cannot implement - need reciprocity.<BR>
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>> APNIC is partially in that very same situation with some of their NIRs not allowing transfers out of their registry:<BR>
>> <a href="https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/n" target="_blank">https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/n</a><BR>
>> ir-ipv4-transfer<BR>
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>> NIR Incoming Outgoing Pre-Approval<BR>
>> VNNIC Yes No By request<BR>
>> CNNIC Yes No By request<BR>
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>> I find it a very strange statement from APNIC and ARIN to say they would not allow one way transfer to AFRINIC when they allow transfers at the moment to one way sub-registries within APNIC region.<BR>
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>> Cheers,<BR>
>> David Hilario<BR>
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