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[rpd] Summary of proposal: Inbound transfer policy

Christopher Mwangi christopher.mwangi at liquidtelecom.com
Tue Nov 15 11:42:38 UTC 2016


Hi Abel,

>>Why do we need inbound  transfer while Afrinic still  has numbers  which must be managed toward  transition to  ipv6 and we have agreed to move to ipv6 immediately ?
>>Someone has even said:  "We should not reward or encourage backward-thinking engineering."

>>I don't think it is in the best interest of Afrinic community to make Africa the epicenter  of ipv4, by allowing inbound  v4 transfer.

     >What are your thoughts on IPV6 and ASN inbound transfer?

Thanks

Christopher


2016-11-15 4:42 GMT+00:00 Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com<mailto:owen at delong.com>>:
You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

I do favor a bi-directional policy. I think that the reality is this is just a formality as there is likely much less space available for transfer out of Africa than in, but that is up to the community.

Wait long enough to pass a policy acceptable to the other RIRs and it won’t matter because there won’t be any available space to transfer. We’re already seeing the price per address starting to rise as orders are getting harder to fill.

Owen


On Nov 14, 2016, at 20:02 , Christopher Mwangi <christopher.mwangi at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:christopher.mwangi at liquidtelecom.com>> wrote:

Hi Owen,

"Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions"

Equal footing can  be quite subjective depending on what is being considered . Is Africa on an equal footing with the other 4 RIRs in regards to the resource allocated?  Probably not in some . This is  merely an invitation to other RIRs ,the communities in those regions can either accept  it or reject it, which would then fulfil the last two concerns  - mutual respect and policies.

If the AfriNIC community wants to open the door for one-way transfers from any other region, then that is totally fine as far as any other community's policies are concerned.

Chris .

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com]
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 10:33 PM
To: Dewole Ajao
Cc: AfriNIC RPD MList.
Subject: Re: [rpd] Summary of proposal: Inbound transfer policy

I remain opposed to any unidirectional inter-RIR transfer proposal.

Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions.

Unidirectional proposals do not reflect this.

Owen

> On Nov 13, 2016, at 19:25 , Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng<mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>> wrote:
>
> Good day,
>
> Please take some time to view and comment on https://goo.gl/Lu3deS with a view toward fine-tuning and producing an improved plan for managing transfer of IP resources into the AFRINIC region.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Dewole Ajao
> PDWG Co-Chair
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