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[rpd] Summary of proposal: Inbound transfer policy

Owen DeLong owen at delong.com
Tue Nov 15 04:42:58 UTC 2016


You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.

The ARIN section 8.4 calls for a “compatible needs based policy”. I know that there was significant opposition in the ARIN region to considering such a proposal “compatible” when it was being discussed in LACNIC. The proposal did not gain consensus in LACNIC region, so the matter remains unsettled in the ARIN region. I do not speak for or on behalf of the ARIN AC, but my vote (which is only one in 15) would be no. I don’t think I would be the only “no” vote, but I can’t say for sure.

I do favor a bi-directional policy. I think that the reality is this is just a formality as there is likely much less space available for transfer out of Africa than in, but that is up to the community.

Wait long enough to pass a policy acceptable to the other RIRs and it won’t matter because there won’t be any available space to transfer. We’re already seeing the price per address starting to rise as orders are getting harder to fill.

Owen

 
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 20:02 , Christopher Mwangi <christopher.mwangi at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi Owen,
>  
> "Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions"
>  
> Equal footing can  be quite subjective depending on what is being considered . Is Africa on an equal footing with the other 4 RIRs in regards to the resource allocated?  Probably not in some . This is  merely an invitation to other RIRs ,the communities in those regions can either accept  it or reject it, which would then fulfil the last two concerns  - mutual respect and policies.
>  
> If the AfriNIC community wants to open the door for one-way transfers from any other region, then that is totally fine as far as any other community's policies are concerned.
>  
> Chris .
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 10:33 PM
> To: Dewole Ajao
> Cc: AfriNIC RPD MList.
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Summary of proposal: Inbound transfer policy
>  
> I remain opposed to any unidirectional inter-RIR transfer proposal.
>  
> Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions.
>  
> Unidirectional proposals do not reflect this.
>  
> Owen
>  
> > On Nov 13, 2016, at 19:25 , Dewole Ajao <dewole at forum.org.ng <mailto:dewole at forum.org.ng>> wrote:
> > 
> > Good day,
> > 
> > Please take some time to view and comment on https://goo.gl/Lu3deS <https://goo.gl/Lu3deS> with a view toward fine-tuning and producing an improved plan for managing transfer of IP resources into the AFRINIC region.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > Dewole Ajao
> > PDWG Co-Chair
> > 
> > 
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