<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">You are, of course, entitled to your opinion.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The ARIN section 8.4 calls for a “compatible needs based policy”. I know that there was significant opposition in the ARIN region to considering such a proposal “compatible” when it was being discussed in LACNIC. The proposal did not gain consensus in LACNIC region, so the matter remains unsettled in the ARIN region. I do not speak for or on behalf of the ARIN AC, but my vote (which is only one in 15) would be no. I don’t think I would be the only “no” vote, but I can’t say for sure.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I do favor a bi-directional policy. I think that the reality is this is just a formality as there is likely much less space available for transfer out of Africa than in, but that is up to the community.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Wait long enough to pass a policy acceptable to the other RIRs and it won’t matter because there won’t be any available space to transfer. We’re already seeing the price per address starting to rise as orders are getting harder to fill.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""> </div><div class=""><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Nov 14, 2016, at 20:02 , Christopher Mwangi <<a href="mailto:christopher.mwangi@liquidtelecom.com" class="">christopher.mwangi@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Monaco; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Hi Owen,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Batang, serif;" class="">"Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions"<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Equal footing can be quite subjective depending on what is being considered . Is Africa on an equal footing with the other 4 RIRs in regards to the resource allocated? Probably not in some . This is merely an invitation to other RIRs ,the communities in those regions can either accept it or reject it, which would then fulfil the last two concerns - mutual respect and policies.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">If the AfriNIC community wants to open the door for one-way transfers from any other region, then that is totally fine as far as any other community's policies are concerned.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Chris .<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">-----Original Message-----<br class="">From: Owen DeLong [<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" class="">mailto:owen@delong.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Sent: Monday, November 14, 2016 10:33 PM<br class="">To: Dewole Ajao<br class="">Cc: AfriNIC RPD MList.<br class="">Subject: Re: [rpd] Summary of proposal: Inbound transfer policy</div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">I remain opposed to any unidirectional inter-RIR transfer proposal.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Transfers between RIRs should be among peers on equal footing with mutual respect to the policies in both regions.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Unidirectional proposals do not reflect this.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Owen<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> On Nov 13, 2016, at 19:25 , Dewole Ajao <<a href="mailto:dewole@forum.org.ng" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;" class="">dewole@forum.org.ng</span></a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> Good day,<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> Please take some time to view and comment on<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://goo.gl/Lu3deS" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="color: windowtext; text-decoration: none;" class="">https://goo.gl/Lu3deS</span></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>with a view toward fine-tuning and producing an improved plan for managing transfer of IP resources into the AFRINIC region.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> Thank you.<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> Dewole Ajao<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">> PDWG Co-Chair<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; 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