[rpd] Summary of proposals: IPv4 Runout Management

[Frank Habicht]

Hi,

did I get this right?

I provided facts, and Noah provided:
- "not so fast"
- "I doubt"
- "I am sure"

should i also share my doubts?

Frank


On 11/8/2016 9:44 PM, Noah wrote:
> On 8 Nov 2016 21:10, "Frank Habicht" <geier at geier.ne.tz
> <mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>> wrote:
>>
>> We WOULD need to have. just few years later (sorry, details, whatever
>> number), IPv4 is going to end. it is not a question of _if_ but a
>> question of _when_.
> 
> Not so fast.
> 
> You forget that just like the IPv4 Internet, the IPv6 Internet will also
> sponteneously developed. Nothing happens over night to so many
> fundamental factors.
> 
> Look at the history of Internet development across the world in each
> continent and what factors were at play per continent in fostering the
> Internet.
> 
> The small group of Internet Elites here in tend to undermine a lot of
> this other factors.
> 
>> And I think we all know examples of cases where people are unprepared
>> and will be surprised - no matter whether it happens sooner or later.
>>
> 
> I doubt any one will be suprised imho.
> We had satellite for ages then the fiber optic came. We all embraced to
> new advancement and upgraded quick yet satelites are still being used in
> remote rural towns where the cable is hardly there.
> 
>> like this one:
>> % Information related to '2001:43f8:1d0::/48'
>>
>> % No abuse contact registered for 2001:43f8:1d0::/48
>>
>> inet6num:       2001:43f8:1d0::/48
>> netname:        WACREN-v6
>>
>> frank at SNET-SNH-DC-P1> show route table inet6.0 2001:43f8:1d0::/48
>>
>> frank at SNET-SNH-DC-P1>
>>
>> route-views6.routeviews.org <http://route-views6.routeviews.org>> sh
> bgp ipv6 2001:43f8:1d0::/48
>> % Network not in table
>> route-views6.routeviews.org <http://route-views6.routeviews.org>>
>>
>> sorry to bring facts into this discussion.
>>
> 
> I am sure wacren has their own reasons as to why some of that v6 is not
> lit.
> 
> But lets not use that as the basis to prove a point.
> 
> What is more important at least imho is the policies under discussion.
> 
>>
>> Regards,
>> Frank
>>
> 
> Noah
>