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[rpd] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

Amreesh Phokeer amreesh.phokeer at
Mon Jun 27 18:36:46 UTC 2016


On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 10:05 PM, <sm+afrinic at> wrote:

> Hi Noah,
> At 03:18 27-06-2016, Noah wrote:
>> PS: I am not sure if number resources were meant to be a commodity but
>> that is what they are turning into.
>> NOTE:  The idea was for them [Number Resources] to be allocated on needs
>> basis and at some administrative fees and if company 'foo'  run out of
>> business and couldn't use them any longer, they were then returned to the
>> parent RIR for re-allocation.
> The note is applicable for LIRs and End-Users which have received IPv4
> addresses from Afrinic Ltd.  I am not sure whether it is enforced.
> And just before you point out that, there is no relation with the RPKI
>> argument, those seeking to benefit from whatever loophole they may abuse,
>> wont stop at nothing since its all about money. But to whose benefit. [1]
> The argument by Mr Ilunga about RPKI was that it has not been adopted.  He
> provided some statistics from a Dutch research network.  I found the rate
> (0%) odd as a 2015 report from the Afrinic Research and Innovation
> Department list the rate from the Dutch research network as 0.83%.  For
> anyone interested in the RPKI there are a few (university) thesis which
> have been written about the topic.

I am pretty sure there is something wrong with the "Dutch" RPKI dashboard.
I'd recommend the NIST dashboard rather:

> And that is why the original post of this thread was "shedding some light"
>> on what is happening at ARIN and why we should also engage in a discourse
>> on what the situation is on the ground within the AFRINIC region.
> There isn't any (public) data for the region about the topic which Mr
> Hountomey wrote about.
> Which is why RPKI surfaced in the discussion because of its benefits and
>> to quote a text from one of the responses to this thread..
> Is the discussion about proving "ownership of Internet number resources in
> the context of IPv4 transfer after the exhaustion of the IPv4 pool of the
> RIR"?
> Regards,
> S. Moonesamy
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Amreesh Phokeer
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