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[rpd] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

sm+afrinic at sm+afrinic at
Mon Jun 27 18:05:06 UTC 2016

Hi Noah,
At 03:18 27-06-2016, Noah wrote:
>PS: I am not sure if number resources were meant to be a commodity 
>but that is what they are turning into.
>NOTE:  The idea was for them [Number Resources] to be allocated on 
>needs basis and at some administrative fees and if company 
>'foo'  run out of business and couldn't use them any longer, they 
>were then returned to the parent RIR for re-allocation.

The note is applicable for LIRs and End-Users which have received 
IPv4 addresses from Afrinic Ltd.  I am not sure whether it is enforced.

>And just before you point out that, there is no relation with the 
>RPKI argument, those seeking to benefit from whatever loophole they 
>may abuse, wont stop at nothing since its all about money. But to 
>whose benefit. [1]

The argument by Mr Ilunga about RPKI was that it has not been 
adopted.  He provided some statistics from a Dutch research 
network.  I found the rate (0%) odd as a 2015 report from the Afrinic 
Research and Innovation Department list the rate from the Dutch 
research network as 0.83%.  For anyone interested in the RPKI there 
are a few (university) thesis which have been written about the topic.

>And that is why the original post of this thread was "shedding some 
>light" on what is happening at ARIN and why we should also engage in 
>a discourse on what the situation is on the ground within the AFRINIC region.

There isn't any (public) data for the region about the topic which Mr 
Hountomey wrote about.

>Which is why RPKI surfaced in the discussion because of its benefits 
>and to quote a text from one of the responses to this thread..

Is the discussion about proving "ownership of Internet number 
resources in the context of IPv4 transfer after the exhaustion of the 
IPv4 pool of the RIR"?

S. Moonesamy 

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