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[rpd] Some thoughts, and some actions required

Noah noah at
Wed Feb 3 05:02:09 UTC 2016

On 29 Jan 2016 17:04, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at>
> The point of the policy is to allow a free and open secondary market so
that those that NEED space can buy it elsewhere on the transfer market.

You mean those in Europe buy it from Africa........

> I point out that there have been in excess of 3 thousand IP transfers in
Europe in the last year or two totalling over a /8 worth of space, this
shows there IS a transfer market and it IS a reality.

That is Europe where the internet is more developed than our continent for
obvious reasons....

> I am NOT proposing a transfer policy from RIR to RIR, I am proposing a
transfer policy to allow us access to the secondary markets of the world in
both directions.

Why would African LIR or entities want to get access to IP from Europe when
their own coffer is still readily available at least for now....

> What are Africans going to do when AfriNIC has no more space and they
have to have space?  Go without because we can’t transfer in and access the
only available space available, that which is going on the secondary market?

Africans will by that time still have space and dont forget IPv6 is also
something folks have been looking forward too....Which is why everyone is
pushing for compliance

In anycase, things in this continent are done sponteniously, no need to
rush into such proposals when there are alternatives....[1]

> Andrew


[1] The soft landing policy can still be a work around with some minor
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