[afnog] [rpd] IPv4 Allocations by Length Statistics for 2014

[Adam Nelson]

Kofi,

Further supporting Seun's email - policy is the way to get what you want.
If we see policies come through and the community starts accepting those
policies, then the board will have to take up the issues which you're
advocating.

Cheers,
Adam

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On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Kofi,
>
> Speaking as myself, my first question will be to ask how writing such a
> quarterly message implies transparency? Perhaps we need to agree on that
> word transparency as it can be relative. Within the context of managing
> resources within this region, i see transparency as AFRINIC staff managing
> resource allocation/assignment based on the active policies and the
> requestor also doing his/her part by following the laid down
> rules/guidelines. Any individual (requester) who then thinks that he/she
> did not experience such service could raise alarm of staff not being
> transparent based on their XYZ action which is against the existing ABC
> policies/guidelines.
>
> I hope you do agree with that view above. I will also encourage you to
> turn some of this thoughts into policy as that is the major way you can see
> the change you desire.
>
> Thanks
> PS: Speaking as an individual
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 10:15 AM, Kofi ANSA AKUFO <kofi.ansa at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Seriously transparency triggers competition which is healthy for
>> innovation and self check for fraud and other frowned on vices. I stand to
>> be corrected but within the scope of best practices and community
>> engagement (e.g. adopting tested democratic methods) can we se the benefit
>> of methods like;
>>
>> "Dear Members/ Community,
>> Organisation X has requested /14 IPv4 resources to be used for providing
>> hosting services, Afrinic hostmasters has evaluated the initial resource
>> request and find it to be compliant with current policies for IPv4
>> allocation. In line with allocations greater than or equal to /15 to be
>> referred to the community for comments before approval the community is
>> hereby welcomed to share its opinion regarding this request"
>>
>> another example which may be implemented as quarterly summaryreports to
>> the community
>>
>> " .... out of the /15 IPv4 requested within the second quarter of this
>> year /18 were requested to provide hosting services .... "
>>
>> How does this jeopardize members business and NDA.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> K.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 7 November 2014 12:32, Lu <h.lu at anytimechinese.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> If I understand Adiel correctly, the r&d department does not and will
>>> ever not have access to registration service's data, it is two different
>>> thing and data between two service are not interchangeable,.
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>>> > On 2014年11月7日, at 上午8:25, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Hello Adam and all,
>>> >
>>> >> On Nov 7, 2014, at 11:29 AM, Adam Nelson <adam at varud.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Also, we should keep in mind that other RIRs are doing research -
>>> they're just not using information that's under NDA.  RIPE has a ton of
>>> probes in Africa sucking up data.  Here's mine for instance:
>>> >>
>>> >> https://atlas.ripe.net/probes/16410/#!tab-network
>>> >
>>> > Let me add few point so that the discussion does not take an ever
>>> ending route.
>>> >
>>> > Yes, RIR does Research and AFRINIC has just created (last month) a new
>>> Department for R&D (lead by Alain Aina)  which will be focussing on Network
>>> Research and Analysis, but only on public data. There is no way that
>>> AFRINIC will use information provided by LIR during their request
>>> evaluation in public research activities (as they are not provided for such
>>> activity and are covered by NDA). If non public information are needed for
>>> research, the R&D department will conduct separate survey or use which ever
>>> legal means are available to collect them.
>>> >
>>> > AFRINIC has also signed a partnership agreement with RIPE for the
>>> ATLAS project where by our R&D team will be deploying some anchors and
>>> distributing probes (already started) in the region to collect data that
>>> are pertinent to some analysis and to build tools that can be useful for
>>> our community. A dedicated web page will be released soon for more
>>> information about this particular research activity.
>>> >
>>> > I hope this clarified few things.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> > - a
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