[rpd] New proposal - "Out-Of-Region Use of AFRINIC Internet Number Resources" (AFPUB-2014-GEN-002-DRAFT-01)

[Omo Oaiya]

Hi Douglas,

On 9 July 2014 09:02, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Omo,
> On 9 July 2014 04:14, Omo Oaiya <omo at wacren.net> wrote:
> > What are Out-Of-Region requests and how many have occurred and at what
> > frequency?
>
> The RIR system was built on the principle of decentralizing
> administration of Internet number resources. This means each RIR is
> expected to operate within the boundaries of the regions they serve.
> Against this backdrop when space from one RIR is used Outside of that
> RIR [Out-of-region], it is generally considered to be at odds with
> this general principle.



Would you elaborate and clarify the principle because the Internet is not
geographic. (The regional or continental administration coverage of LIRs
would say little about the network)



> There are multiple exceptions/intricacies with
> this principle, but I hope you get the general point.
>

A bit hazy.  Please explain concisely


>
> Because of the many exceptions, and other reasons, I can't begin to
> quantify how many. I hope AFRINIC will have a better answer.
>

So what is the proposal based on if we don't know even if this is a
problem, an operational or real policy need


>
> > Is there any evidence of this?  If there is, what is the current
> procedure
> > for such
>

Evidence based proposal would be preferred


> Perhaps staff can provide a more authoritative answer to this.
>
> > Would this require every request to state % of out-of-region usage and
> show
> > it in network?
>
> Staff is again better placed to response to this as they will be
> responsible for the implementation/enforcement.
>
>
In that case, perhaps better for the policy to be formulated working with
the actual networks/plans and /s instead of %?


>
> > Is there any precedence of such a policy at any of the other RIRs?
> I know that a draft was introduced in ARIN in Jan and is currently
> under discussion.
>
>
Could you share the document and/or an opinion on the draft?



>  > Is this going to create an issue of RIRs competing with each other
> globally?
>
> Complex question. All I can say is that this Policy will formalize and
> draw the rules for a game that is already in play...
>


Is this then on a global policy track?

best wishes
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