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[rpd] New proposal - "Out-Of-Region Use of AFRINIC Internet Number Resources" (AFPUB-2014-GEN-002-DRAFT-01)

Omo Oaiya omo at
Thu Jul 10 16:04:01 UTC 2014

Hi Douglas,

On 9 July 2014 09:02, Douglas Onyango <ondouglas at> wrote:

> Hi Omo,
> On 9 July 2014 04:14, Omo Oaiya <omo at> wrote:
> > What are Out-Of-Region requests and how many have occurred and at what
> > frequency?
> The RIR system was built on the principle of decentralizing
> administration of Internet number resources. This means each RIR is
> expected to operate within the boundaries of the regions they serve.
> Against this backdrop when space from one RIR is used Outside of that
> RIR [Out-of-region], it is generally considered to be at odds with
> this general principle.

Would you elaborate and clarify the principle because the Internet is not
geographic. (The regional or continental administration coverage of LIRs
would say little about the network)

> There are multiple exceptions/intricacies with
> this principle, but I hope you get the general point.

A bit hazy.  Please explain concisely

> Because of the many exceptions, and other reasons, I can't begin to
> quantify how many. I hope AFRINIC will have a better answer.

So what is the proposal based on if we don't know even if this is a
problem, an operational or real policy need

> > Is there any evidence of this?  If there is, what is the current
> procedure
> > for such

Evidence based proposal would be preferred

> Perhaps staff can provide a more authoritative answer to this.
> > Would this require every request to state % of out-of-region usage and
> show
> > it in network?
> Staff is again better placed to response to this as they will be
> responsible for the implementation/enforcement.
In that case, perhaps better for the policy to be formulated working with
the actual networks/plans and /s instead of %?

> > Is there any precedence of such a policy at any of the other RIRs?
> I know that a draft was introduced in ARIN in Jan and is currently
> under discussion.
Could you share the document and/or an opinion on the draft?

>  > Is this going to create an issue of RIRs competing with each other
> globally?
> Complex question. All I can say is that this Policy will formalize and
> draw the rules for a game that is already in play...

Is this then on a global policy track?

best wishes
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