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[rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.

Saul saul at
Sat May 17 08:10:24 UTC 2014

Hi Stephen,

As many have already said, if you are an African company use your resources 
wherever in the universe – I am fine with that.

I am referring to the following scenario: Company X is a member of Afrinic 
and gets resources. Copmany Y from India pays $10000000000 for this space, 
not a member of AFINIC and has no legitimate business in AFRICA.

So this takes care of companies being acquired – they’re still going to have 
a presence in AFRICA and I think that there is a policy to transfer 
resources to other RIRs if the purchasing company wished to do that. I haven’t 
read this policy, so don’t know the implications.

My 2c

From: Stephen Wilcox [mailto:steve.wilcox at]
Sent: 16 May 2014 05:12 PM
To: Saul
Cc: mje at; rpd at List
Subject: Re: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.

Hi Saul,

 so a successful African company that wishes to expand outside Africa is 
forced to go to APNIC, RIPE, etc who are unable to assign space as they have 
ran out. Isn't this an issue with regionalising resources for global 


On 16 May 2014 15:57, Saul <saul at 
<mailto:saul at> > wrote:

Personally I am in favour of keeping our resources regional. I think that we
have all been offered large sums of money to get space and then sell it off
the continent.

But then its IP... does it really matter?

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[mailto:rpd-bounces at <mailto:rpd-bounces at> ] On Behalf 
Mark Elkins
Sent: 15 May 2014 09:09 PM
To: rpd at <mailto:rpd at>
Subject: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.

On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 21:46 +0400, Kofi ansa akufo wrote:
>  ....the resource was going out of the region....

As far as I am aware, the current requirement for getting address space is
that you are a company properly established (all legal - as such) in Africa.
There is currently no policy (except with the last /8) that states the
resources you get have to be used in Africa....

This might be good.... (get rid of all the IPv4, start using IPv6) or Bad...
(we are doing *what* with our resources???)

Maybe some policy needs to be designed - how do people feel...

Mark James ELKINS  -  Posix Systems - (South) Africa
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